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Discussion in 'Sites' started by falco85, Apr 23, 2006.

  1. falco85

    falco85 Peon

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    #21
    First of all let me clear things since there are many things said there :)

    The minimum time I will leave the domain to the hands of its developer will be 1 year, as said with dcristo in private chat. so, you will have the time to develop it and start making money from it since the first day. Then, noone says I'll have a buyer at the 366th day. It could take some days, weeks, months, or years. Who knows? In the meantime you'll keep the site updated and will continue making revenue.

    OVT w/ext 300 means that in march 2006 at least 300 persons directly typed in the site url (for a typo or other reasons). Usually overture is just a small portion of what's is really going on (is linked with yahoo.. so it's not taking in account other SEs or direct browser typeins), so traffic is multiplied.

    This is a win-win situation for both me and the site developer. He will make his fair revenue (this will be up to his skills) and I'll make mine selling the site. If you were going to start a site from another domain with 0 OVT, you would have 0 starting traffic meaning work of months (most probably years) to make 100/200 uniques day (or strong investment in PPC).

    And, I won't sell the site to myself since I'm a domainer, own hundreds of domains and have got an online business as well. So if I were going to buy this domain I would need to keep it updated. Simply I don't have time nor the good skills to do it. My profit is from selling sites, domains and services.

    For anything else, I'm available to publicly answer here, or on private chat or PM :)
     
    falco85, Apr 24, 2006 IP
  2. jkomp

    jkomp Well-Known Member

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    #22
    it would be more interesting if we got a percentage of the sale price too.
     
    jkomp, Apr 24, 2006 IP
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    projectw3 Banned

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    #23
    My point exactly. I guess whoever is developing the site would be more motivated to do a better job, since they own part of the project...

     
    projectw3, Apr 24, 2006 IP
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    chandubhai Banned

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    #24
    you must be kidding dude
     
    chandubhai, Apr 24, 2006 IP
  5. Mr Crow

    Mr Crow Peon

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    #25
    its not hard to fool a 300 rating either ... so yes I agree a 6 month no sale period would be in order ...

    Although He may totally honorable intentions .........
    who is to say that you develop and he dont just say screw you .. he owns the domain and has full rights ... nah seems like a dangerous deal ...

    Business is all about risks , but an uncontrollable risk is only for the really stupid or the person who has so much that he dont care anyway ...
    A person going into a deal like this should from the begining assume he is getting screwed and if it pans out great!
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 24, 2006 IP
  6. Jimmy116

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    #26
    Friendly speaking this is not really unfair for the guy who develope the site ...
     
    Jimmy116, Apr 24, 2006 IP
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    vprp Peon

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    #27
    Personally, I think it would be better if you split the revenue and then split the sell price. The percentage would be up to you. If the site is making enough, maybe you wouldn't be tempted to sell it since you'd be receiving revenues from it. Otherwise, I see you selling the site as soon as possible.
     
    vprp, Apr 24, 2006 IP
  8. edr

    edr Guest

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    #28
    Created a new username just so I could post in this thread. Beware of anyone who treats their business clients as described in this thread here on DP:

    (edit: can't post links as this is 1st post under this name)
    it's showthread.php?t=59586 - page 2 is where it gets crazy.

    There may be some valid reasons for disagreement between Falco and his clients, but in my experience the way you manage disagreements is in a civil manner.

    Just a warning to anyone who is seriously considering being a "partner" here - if he treats his clients with such disdain what makes you think he would give you anything near a fair shake?

    Gotta hand it to him, though - he manages to create controversial threads.
     
    edr, Apr 24, 2006 IP
  9. Mr Crow

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    #29
    well after reading the post scam catcher pointed us to - I will pack up and say screw that... I wont waste another minute with this guy - see ya
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  10. falco85

    falco85 Peon

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    #30
    ScamCatcher, why don't you just show up with your own username? :)
    I do not screw with clients until they are unpolite or uncorrect with me, so if I receive a personal offense (pointed to me, and not to my work, that would be different) I just respond.

    Anyway, this is just a business proposal and you can take it or not; nobody obliges anyone to accept nor to reply to this thread (if you are not interest why bother posting there? me wonders)

    I am having nice parking revenue from that domain so I wouldn't bother to retire my offer, if there's no interest at all.
     
    falco85, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  11. Mr Crow

    Mr Crow Peon

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    #31
    me wonders? .............. hmmmmmmmmm

    I wasnt going to post in this thread until I got a pm today from Falco complaining to me because I judged him ..

    You guys ... this guy will have every thing his way and he will worm and squirm until he gets it ...
    I see this in the streets of Detroit ALL the time - but from street people trying to get over on you ...

    You are working to hard Falco to be right ... if you know you are right then why care what this guy or that guys says - your great customers that you say you have wont beleive them -

    But its you drive to be right and to flip the table and make smoke screens that alarms me
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  12. falco85

    falco85 Peon

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    #32
    Again!
    I'd like to repeat that I don't like so much personal offenses, much more when they are not motived from any part.
    You are depicting me like a criminal, isn't that a personal offense?
    Second, did someone ordered you to evaluate/join my proposal? No. So just put me and my threads in ignore. :)
    Third, do you want to judge me in a serious way? Do you think that my posting company is not doing a good job? You can always visit my company site and ask for a free trial package.
    Fourth, why are you judging my person from my posts, or from issues with third parts? Haven't you ever thought for a while that maybe (or even read better that thread to see who started insulting who) that I am not who you say I am? You know, in real life I am an aerospace engineering student and probably will graduate in july with full marks. So I think to have the right behaviour towards work and the right seriousness to do it.
    Fifth, never been to detroit nor to USA lately. I am from Rome, Italy. Do you know Italy? :)

    Period.
     
    falco85, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  13. edr

    edr Guest

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    #33
    I decided not to show up with my normal name precisely because of how you react - you admit that you "screw with clients" ... only when they are "unpolite" or "uncorrect" .... so essentially if you have a disagreement then to your mind it is ok for you to act with disrespect and contempt for your clients and I can only assume your hard-working "business partner".

    I posted in this thread because I want anyone considering your offer to have full disclosure.

    I am not obligated to act on your proposal nor post in this thread, that's true. But I am also not obligated to watch from the sidelines as somebody gets duped into believing in your "business partnership proposal". As soon as you post into the open domain of a forum it is up for comment by any and all members, even those who chose to not disclose thier identity otherwise. You sleep in the bed you make and it is only fair to anyone thinking of doing business with you that they understand the risk they assume.
     
    edr, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  14. falco85

    falco85 Peon

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    #34
    ScamCatcher there's no need for you to hide, you can come with your normal nickname, no problem :) I'm not a killer nor a scammer, lol :D what's the problem with showing up with your real name? Besides the fact that having fakes should be prohibited by DP rules, if I am not wrong.

    Regarding the "screwing up" it comes up when someone insults me, and when someone insults me personally, I think that is in my right to respond and defend my own dignity, as everybody would - buying a service does not mean buying the right to insult.

    Anyway, where's the risk in that kind of business? I don't see any risk - as said there would be an agreement. The other party want a signed agreement? A contract? No problem, I've got nothing to hide. It's just a business model heavily adopted around in the domain industry :) I am not inventing anything, I have seen this done on several other parts and like the business model.

    I just see tons of useless unjustified defamation towards me. I repeat, if anybody needs further explanations or talks, I'm always available on msn messenger, or if you want you can even call me, or leave me your number and I will call back to you, how much else should I say?
     
    falco85, Apr 25, 2006 IP
  15. yeahyeahyeah

    yeahyeahyeah Peon

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    #35
    however pm me the domain name and maybe i can do something...
     
    yeahyeahyeah, Apr 27, 2006 IP
  16. Notting

    Notting Notable Member

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    #36
    I belive we have had the issue before about people commenting on other peoples sales threads. I don't think people should be discusisng here, thats what general is for.

    Unforatunately due to the stupid rep system, i'll not bother redding anyone.

    Notting
     
    Notting, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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  17. Mr Crow

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    #37
    Yeah actually what notting says is true .. I guess I should have kept my big mouth shut
     
    Mr Crow, Apr 27, 2006 IP
  18. akash

    akash Peon

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    #38
    Hi
    why dont you tell the domain name. That way everyone can have a better idea of potential in it
     
    akash, Apr 27, 2006 IP
  19. SFOD_D223

    SFOD_D223 Peon

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    #39
    lol...that's what makes the deal so weird...:eek:
     
    SFOD_D223, Apr 27, 2006 IP
  20. falco85

    falco85 Peon

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    #40
    as I repeat I own hundreds of domains and so I would not be able to keep a site updated ;) so a sale to myself would be pointless.. I look for a different revenue source. anyway feel free not to consider this anymore, I'll keep the domain parked since its got a nice ctr

    thread closed
     
    falco85, Apr 28, 2006 IP