I actually like Speno's 2nd design on page 2. And for a heads up, proteindude, you seem to be posting back to back quite often. You can reduce what you're typing in different posts to one post. It's kind of Cheating for getting your posts higher. Just a heads up. Thanks, -Mike.
The reason I post "back to back quite often" is only because I appreciate the guys entries and I feel the least I can do is provide feedback. Sure I can throw it all together or just reply to only those "worthy" of my time. The thought of "getting my posts higher" has never crossed my mind. Nevertheless if anyone else feels this way please let me know and I will correct this.
You can quote multiple times in one Post. This is quoted from the Faq's/Rules. BUMP stands for Bring Up My Post. What you're doing is considered bumping, IMO, and probably in other's, including Admin / Mods. Hope you find this useful. Thanks, -Mike.
Like you said, in your opinion. Good to see you read the Faq's/Rules. Remember my point: "if anyone else fels this way I will correct it." You made your point and believe it or not that is appreciated
Thank you proteindude for clearing that up for me. I used a bit of tint screening (radial) to give the globe some depth and changed the font. I think what Mike is trying to say is that you could get a temporary ban for posting 3 or more times in a row. I've seen it happen quite often and I *think* that is one reason for banning.
Thanks for the changes. Here's where I am at the moment. I like adamant's one the best. Yet at the same time I can't get yours out of my mind. It is getting a lot closer to what I am after. My only problem with the new changes is the font still needs to be somehow fuller. I am going back to Regency again. I think the reason that Regency font looks "fuller" at least in my mind is because it's got some kind of emboss or bevel effect (I am not a designer so I am unsure of the exact terms). And the other thing: even though the globe looks better now, in a sense it looks worse as it's got less colour. It looks better more professional and somehow it's more of a pink. But over all, everything you did is improving it. regarding the posting:3 in a row and so on. It didn't ever cross my mind this would be "cheating". But if I think about it it does make sense. You would not want someone constantly BUMP-ing his own posts. I am not sure if those that got temporary bans even realised what they were doing "wrong". If Mike didn't mentioned I never would have thought about it. But now that he did and so do you, I will keep it in mind.
Just a point of clarification here: I've been in the printing business for a long time now, so I speak from experience. Because I thought I read that you will be printing labels and other stuff, keep in mind that there are 3 main ways to do most print jobs like this: 1) CMYK (stands for Cyan, Magenta, Yellow, BlacK). This is also known as "4-color" printing. Colors are produced using combinations of these 4 colors of ink. 2) Spot color (using PMS - Pantone Matching System of colors). Pantone has created thousands of colors of ink that commercial printers use either by themselves, or in combination. 3) Digital printing. This is printing from a digital output device, think of an oversized color copier, but with better quality. The reason I bring all this up is that each of these method has different costs applied to it. CMYK can be cost-effective, but only if printing in large quantities. If you are mainly printing red and black, you may be better off financially printing using Spot colors, meaning you are only paying for 2 colors of ink, say PMS 186 Red, and Black. This could be significantly cheaper than paying for CMYK when you don't really need it. Digital printing is pretty much replicating CMYK, but the quality isn't always as good, but technology is getting better. The fact is, vector files are MUCH better and easier to use when printing with spot colors. Photoshop (most users' main raster image program) is mainly used for creating CMYK or RGB files (RGB being the color space used by all computer monitors and TV sets, so it's perfect for web design). You can create a 2-spot-color graphic, but it's not as easy as a vector file, and to be frank, creating shadows, bevels, and other effects popular in Photoshop almost require CMYK or RGB color to hold the quality of the effects. So when you're asking for a "red and black" logo, but with "bevels and shadows", just be careful of what you're asking for. Picking the brains of the company doing your printing is the best way to avoid problems. Hope this isn't too much information to process, but I wouldn't want you to get a logo you absolutely love, and then have a heart attack when the printer you go to says "We can do that, but it's gonna be expensive", or worse yet, "There's no way we can produce that for what you can afford." Many designers who create art for the web have no experience in designing for print, and without that knowledge, the client can be in for a big surprise, and not usually a good one. Good luck!
WOW mac crazy, that was beautiful!! I think I need to put your words in my printing specification sheet. This logo has been a little difficult for me with the limitations of color and the vector artwork and trying to get a look of something that was done in Photoshop. But it challenged me and I like challenges....... sometimes. green rep for you mac c!!
Mac: Thanks for the info. I guess I should state my priorities. Most of my customers will see the designs (logo, labels etc) on the website so Photoshop would also be fine. Once they receive their order, I hardly doubt they will go: "hmm...these colours on the protein bag don't look identical as on the website." What I am trying to say is that while some things are important not many will look at it in great detail. As long as the overall look is fine, than that's all that's needed. For example I used to work as a painter and everynow and then if you looked really carefully near doors and windows you will see some "misses" and "overlapping". However, I have never been to anyone's house and heard them complain about the "overlapping" of the colours near the windows. What I am saying is certain things are only noticed by the experts while the mass consumer won't be paying much attention. I initially asked for the vector format not knowing it would affect the end design (sorry but I am not a designer). Anyway, thanks to Mac I now know a little better.
shibligd Thanks for the changes. I am not sure how you are with feedback, but even though your logo has improved it's still not as good as the others. It still looks a little too plain. I really don't think that font matches what I am after. Jamess Thank you for the new one. It looks better but I am still not sure about the font. I wanted something a little sharper, a little more "corporate" as far as the font goes. The new position (next to each other) I think looks a lot better and the globe looks great too.
To tell you the truth you just keep on improving with every new try. I hope you won't misunderstand me: even though you are getting better I still find a couple of the other submissions more suitable. I sell protein powders with different flavours. I know for a fact not everyone will like the taste. Some people will say they are to sweet, or not sweet enough, etc. The more I sell the more various feedbacks I receive. So while you are getting better, this design is still not something that I am after.
Hi CoolWanz, I am very pleased to see an entry from one of the big guns The only other big gun that hasn't entered is raghav. This is a very pleasant design typical of coolwanz or as the French would say: Cette belle conception est très typique de coolwanz. However, you missed out on an important part of the design: I need to have the .com.au as part of the logo. I am not sure how much this would affect the overall design. And perhaps the only other thing, I would have preferred a more reddish shade. Yours looks to be a little more burgundy (at least on my screen). Also that is a very nice globe.
I see your point, PD, you're right, most times the consumer isn't going to notice the little things, or just won't care. However, my point isn't what's noticed (or not) by your buyers; the potential problem lies in getting your labels or whatever printed, before they are even seen by the customer. To put it another way: You, the house painter (i.e., the printer) have a customer (i.e., someone who needs a job printed) come to you and say, "Ok, I'm all set for you to paint my bedroom (print my labels). I bought the paint for you. It's a Crayola watercolor set. OK?" You might reply, "Sure I can paint your bedroom using watercolors, but it's gonna cost a lot more." Maybe not the best analogy, but hopefully you get what I'm saying. Trust me on this one: 99% of printers will love you for asking questions ahead of time; they'd rather know what they are gonna get ahead of time. All that said, you're right, the logos that are being used on your website can be raster or vector, the monitor is much more forgiving! KiaOra: Thanks for the kind words, glad you enjoyed my rambling. Just like to share the wealth, it sucks being on the pre-press/printing side, getting files where the client wants to pay for 2-color, but has it set up as CMYK, or wants CMYK but has it set up with 29 spot colors. If you want to use what I've written, just drop me a PM. And thanks for the rep!