I'm a newbie and I'd like to get expert feedback before I proceed with a Linkvana membership. I have one site which is a niche social network. Our entire business is this site and we cannot get sandboxed or even take the risk of being sandboxed. We need to begin a linkbuilding campaign. For some industry related sites, we are linkbuilding manually and the response is quite good. But we need to scale and we don't have the manpower to do it. Is there a risk in using Linkvana (responsibly, mind you) to be sandboxed? I do not think we will risk using an article spinner, we just need a network to publish manually written pieces. Any comments on Linkvana vs. SEOLinkVine? Also, SENuke and Link Dozer seem blackhat. I do like the suite of tools they offer, can these tools be used responsibly without risking a blacklisting or sandbox? BTW, $$ is not a huge consideration for me. We'd have no problem paying significant $$ for a link-building project, but it needs to be 100% whitehat. Any suggestions? Thanks for your comments in advance.
I don't think you have much risk with a blog network whether it's Linkvana, SEOLinkvine, or something like ours (see sig for Linkvana alternative). Now sure SENuke, you might find yourself getting penalized, but you wouldn't want to blast those links to your main site anyway. Setup a web 2.0 site as squidoo or something similar, add some content, and a link back to your main site. Then blast links to the web 2.0 site.
But if you going to spam links and Google know that, you will lost so much with the benefits you got from these links.
As long as you're sensible with your linkbuilding there's no reason why blackhat tools can harm your site. That is, make your linking seem natural rather than spamming 500 links in an hour.
linkvana is 150/month - however to really get value out of this you need to be writing 20+ posts/day - this can be tedious since they have to be 100 words long (2000words/day) but a great combo would be to have an outsourced assistant complete the daily writing requirement, linkvana is so easy to use, it would be easy to train the VA. 20 posts a day with linkvana will actually get you quite a bit of traffic, along with obvious seo benefits! cheers
Here is how the two differ from one another: SEOLinkVine - your articles will be posted on quality blogs; the blogs to where the system posts your articles to are not actually owned by SEOLinkVine. Pros: * You can use markings, i.e. { variation 1 | variation 2 | variation 3 }, to make an article to have many unique variations (a.k.a. “spinnableâ€) – you only need to submit one article with markings and the system will take care the distribution. * Your links are of course “dofollowâ€, with a big upside – the anchor texts are “spinnable.†* Analytics to monitor the progress of your sites ranking on search engines on your targeted keywords. * Affordable pricing of $50 / month. Cons: * Despite being monitored, members’ blogs quality can be less than what you expect. * You can’t really control backlink quality – you could get links from blogs with PageRank 0 or with the same IP address, resulting in reduced link values. * Limited customization allowed in article posting frequencies and such. LinkVana - your articles will be published to quality blogs; the blogs to which the article is posted is LinkVana’s – so, backlink quality can be assured. Pros: * All blogs are LinkVana-owned and guaranteed to have PageRank 2 to PageRank 5, aged and have 1000s of inbound links on each – so quality is out of question. * Huge blog network that grows 50-100 blogs each month. * You are guaranteed to get backlinks from different class C IP address. * You can control posting frequency and other options. Cons: * Pricing is a bit turn-off: $147 / month (25% discount of $197 /month for the first 300 members.) * The system uses snippets, not markings – so if you want more variations on a single article, you might need a help of quality article rewriter tool, such as Magic Article Rewriter.
Why don't you just setup a directory and collect links naturally rather than trying to force the issue?
The definition of whitehat or blackhat dpends on who you ask. Essentially a whitehat technique is one that is openly approved of by search enines. And blackhat, a technique that is frownedupon by search enignes. But to me, the definition of blackhat is spammy (or deceptive). So mass auto blog commenting, linkfarms, cloaking. To me, a tool like SENuke is not really blackhat, because all it does is do the same thing a manual SEO worker would do, in a fraction of the time (but at a considerable cost). I have had a little play with SENuke, but I don't really think it is worth the money. I advise starting a WTB thread in the BST section. Asking for linkbuilding via social bookmarking, blog comments, PR submissions, and directory submissions. And say that a list of all the links built must be given on completion. Then hire several freelancers doing the same job. That is how you'll get good quality services.
I used Linkvana and for a time, I benefited from the service. However, I saw less and less benefit over time. Eventually, there was no value in the services and I canceled my membership. You can find people to write 100-word articles for you for $1/piece but it is still time consuming to post them.
It all depends on how you use the tools. SE Nuke can be used for Good. It's probably one of the biggest time savers in IM. Use it wrong and it's one of the biggest time vampires. If you've every back traced the sites on Linkvana you will quickly see how crappy their network is. Definitely not worth their prices and like all these services, people's sites get deindexed and taken out of the networks fast. SEO Linkvine, My Article Directory, Free Traffic...all those services allow crap posts to pharma and adult. Just sign up a blog for auto posting and you'll quickly see the junk that you get. It's insane.
if you are in the link building project, several tools you can use it, I tried the SEO nuke before, I don't like the software, no use for me and no efficient results. 1 SERP checker for help track the keyword ranking in google 2 social bookmark submit for help submit the website to the social bookmarks.( can try the phpdug, and pliglist. Different software) 3 dofollow forum signature. (better don't buy cheap one, cause your account been banned by the forum) 4 dofollow blog finder 5 Articles submiter 6 if you are rich can buy the service of Text Ads Link for the dofollow links from relevant site.Cost will be 50 to 1000 per month depends on the site PR. (I never use it) The 5 tools can help you to do the link building.If you want pay more than $1000 to buy these 5 tools,just go clickbank and search,so I don't post my affiliate links here.^_^. Other software like SEOlinks, not professional, for basic SEO only.My personal opinion is the all in one software not professional in the top 5 links building method and always waste my money.
Interesting, would you say linkvine is significantly better than linkvana? I guess it really depends on the page rank of their network, and do follow status
Have used Linkvana, no idea on linkvine. Saw very llittle value with linkvana! Very likely due to the relative low amount of submissions, and I started using their writers. You need to submit many, many submissions perhaps over 300-400 per month and they do submit on a drip feed basis. Could be done cheaper.
Question - what's the difference beween SeoLinkVine and the digital point co-op network. Sounds very similar to me. I used the co-op with great success back in the day - but eventually the search engines figured it out. All of the domains I ran it on were burned. With LinkVine - because it's a paid membership, that does limit the size that it can grow. However, I wouldn't be surprised if it doesn't leave some kind of easily identifiable footprint. For instance, can the same article I submit be published on more than 1 blog? That would be a way to tie together the network of sites that are in LinkVine. I don't know about LinkVana - but seems like being a closed network, they have more control over it. However, they run the risk of putting too many links on their blogs - to keep the customers happy. I currently do all of my link building by hand now. It's tedious, but in the long run, the rankings build up a couple links a day.
This is the best way to do it. You can use tools to make it easier and more efficient, but without cost and risk of questionable/expensive software or services.
I suggested something similar in another thread. My thought was to utilize free blogs and put RSS feeds on them. But I'm just thinking. Is it better to place the links first AND THEN boost this blog via some technique? Or is it better to first boost the blog creating lot's of backlinks and hoping for some good PR-ranking AND then do the linking from them to the target site?!
Not sure if I'm completely understanding you, but I think it's best if the links (to your money page) are placed on the web 2.0 sites before you start building backlinks to those web 2.0 pages. You want those links to be place when the search engines crawl those links you are building to the web 2.0 pages.
I was talking about blogs. 1. First promote the blog until it get's some page rank AND THEN place your links there. OR: 2. Place the links on the blog AND THEN promote this blog to gain some weight. Perhaps this doesn't matter at all.