Links, Links, Links but internal ;) some Questions

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by sajez, Mar 1, 2010.

  1. #1
    Hi all,

    I have several questions about internal links on the homepage.

    1. What links does Google see?
    Ok lets say we I have 10 links on the homepage but 5 of those links go to the same inner page of my site. So Ihave 5 links each pointing to another inner page (1-5) and 5 links pointing all to the same inner page called "hive"

    H ------> hive
    H ------> hive
    H ------> hive
    H ------> hive
    H ------> hive

    H ------> 1
    H ------> 2
    H ------> 3
    H ------> 4
    H ------> 5

    Well how does Google see those links and how does the PageRank flow? Does every link get 1/10 of the PR and therefore "hive" gets 5/10 of the PR because 5 links point to it from the homepage? or do the 5 links to "hive" only count as 1 link and the PR is 1/6 for each of the 6 pages involved?

    2. Do "noindex" pages transfer PageRank?
    Ok so now with all the discussion about the ne "nofollow" rules I am thinking about how to solve this for the unimportant pages like "privacy policy" and "contact us" and such. In the past I just "nofollow" those but now I am not sure anymore. What I now wanted to do is just let them "follow" but in the metatags add "noindex" to them. Does the Pagerank flow throug "noindex" pages? Or as the are not indexed all the PR they get will be lost?

    3. In the past I had the links to my "Privacy Policy" and "Contact Us" on all my pages in the footer but now with the "nofollow" discussions I think I will have those links only on the Frontpage of the homepage. Is there any disadvantage doing this? Does google penelize this in any way?

    4. Page linking to itself.
    Is linking to a page itself in any way positive or negative? For example if I am on a page about "dog food" and I use the keyword "dog food" in the body text, can I link to the page itself? Or is this not good?

    5. Bookmarking links
    Well I use wordpress as my main CMS and there a a ton of plugins, which add bookmarks to your site. Are those plugins bad for the Pagerank?

    there are different types of them:
    a) Links with anchortext like "bookmark at digg" are added to the page which are nofollowed
    b) nofollow links with no anchortext like <a title="Digg" class="cute_profiles_digg" href="http://digg.com/submit?phase=2&url=http://domain.comt&title=keyword" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ></a>
    c) links with javascript

    Do the links with the missing anchortext still bleed PageRank?
    Do Javascript-links bleed PageRank?


    Hope you can help me out here :)

    Thank You!
     
    Last edited: Mar 1, 2010
    sajez, Mar 1, 2010 IP
  2. selectsplat

    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    Pagerank that is passed internally is the same as pagerank that is passed externally. The exact formula is not known, however is it basically PR * .85 (dampener) / number of links on the page.

    The biggest debate regarding your question with whether or not outbound links are counted with inbound links when determining how much link juice is passed internally. Personally, I believe they are. If that is true, then you need to count all links on the page, and not just internal.

    As for your questions....

    1.) (PR * .85) / 10 would be passed through each link. However, Google often further discounts multiple links to one site that are from the same page (and often from the same site). The amount is each additinoal link is discounted is unknown. It is my personal belief that additional links are 100% discounted if they are from the same page, otherwise, it would be too easy to 'sculpt' internal PR. If what I believe is true, then the most benefit you would get is one link's worth. So 1 link would pass the same as 5 links

    2. This question has been asked many times, but I haven't seen an 'official' answer from google on this. Mainly, Google doesn't like that people are trying to manipulare their internal PR, so they don't answer questions like this often. I haven't done testing on this myself. That said, I believe that PR is passed to 'noindex' pages, but that that pages are just not includes in Google's index.

    3. I don't think there's much of an advantage here. There are easier ways to make a link that doens't pass PR, and that also doesn't affect the user as much. Perhaps you could make javascript links.
     
    selectsplat, Mar 1, 2010 IP
  3. sajez

    sajez Peon

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    Thanks selectsplat!

    can you maybe add somethink to the points 4 + 5 ?
     
    sajez, Mar 10, 2010 IP
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    seo555 Peon

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    good valuable info make your interlinking page wise, give same page link on same keyword like if your keyword is SEO so target keyword SEO and put you SEO page link on that keyword so you can get more benefits with google backlinks
     
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  5. selectsplat

    selectsplat Well-Known Member

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    4.) A page linking to itself doens't help, but pages within your site linking to the first page will help. And in fact, there are some ways you can ensure that some pages of your site get more of your pagerank than others. It's called 'pagerank sculpting'. Research this on Google if you are interested.

    5.) Covers alot of ground. Some plugins are useful, some are not. The ones you mention sounds generally ok, but I am unable to comment wihtout a verbose description of each.
     
    selectsplat, Mar 11, 2010 IP