LinkMarket.net is a TOTAL scam . Stay Awayyyy. Read more inside

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by max-seo-guru, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. yfs1

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    #61
    I don't use link exchange for all my sites because there is a time and a place but while other people have been discussing patent applications and the like over the last year, I've still been doing recips (Exclusively on a few sites that I don't have time to write articles for, etc) and they can still work a treat.

    There is a lot of people that just go with popular sentiment when it comes to SEO and seem quick to discount things that still work just because everyone else is. I'm not saying ranking is guaranteed with tons of recips like it used to be but for niche areas, it still works really good.

    But as so many have said in this thread, to each his own.
     
    yfs1, May 25, 2006 IP
  2. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    #62
    That sums it up nicely, imo. You aren't going to own the serps doing reciprocal linking but they still work and help promote your site.

    I agree too, that every-so-often someone drops a fat rumour into a forum or speculates a little and before long the rumour has become 'fact' and lots of people are absolutely 'certain' the rumour is true and the result of a new algorithm or a penalty or whatever else gets mixed in to flesh things out. Popular sentiment wins the day rather than tried and trusted methods.
     
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  3. cleanairguy

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    #63
    The worse thing you can do is link to a bad neighborhood. Riddle me this. If you're going hog wild exchanging links as often as a $5 hooker turns a trick, how are you going to be able to keep track of which sites turn into bad neighborhoods? And believe me, it's a numbers game, some will. Some might not be bad websites but they'll hire a scum bag SEO firm (like traffic power) and then they'll become bad neighbors. That's my main problem with exchanging links en mass.

    Better, find high PR sites that don't charge a lot ( $20 or under) for relevant links. Trade links with a few high PR sites. Do the three way managatwa link thing.

    Best. Write great articles and submit them. Create great content and RSS feed it. Write great PR's and submit them for free via the 10 or so free PR services. Write messages on high ranking forums and message boards. Do those things and you'll get a lot of great (free) one way links, and the SE's will love your site. Maybe not overnight, but eventually.

    Bottom line, link exchange farms like the one being discussed here are only good for increasing your traffic, which isn't a bad thing in and of itself, but for PR or SERP position, I think it's a crap shoot myself and I know there are better ways to go.
     
    cleanairguy, Jun 6, 2006 IP
  4. yfs1

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    #64
    1.) You have to believe that myth
    2.) Who said anything about linking to bad neighborhoods?
     
    yfs1, Jun 7, 2006 IP
  5. cleanairguy

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    #65
    Google says:

    Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.


    I think there is plenty of proof that sites get whacked all the time by google for linking to spammy sites. Don't you agree or are all of those posts on DP about being banished from google's SERPS's BS?

    As to the question "who said anything about linking to bad 'hoods" .....I simply stated the obvious. When people join link farms and swap links, they have no idea when a site they're linking to becomes a bad site. How can you keep track if you have 100-1000 link swaps?
     
    cleanairguy, Jun 7, 2006 IP
  6. RH78

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    #66
    LOL....can I use that as a sig? That's awesome!!!!
     
    RH78, Jun 8, 2006 IP
  7. thesaddleryshop

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    #67
    I stupidly registered for one of these 'link swap' places- hav been inundated with totally irrelevant link requests ever since......I learnt my lesson
     
    thesaddleryshop, Jun 8, 2006 IP
  8. ChildeRoland

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    #68
    Damn, if Max-SEO-Guru claims he is a true SEO guru, i'm a straight lance bass. First indication that he's not a guru, is how long he's spent trying to convince everyone that the most used linking tool in the world is a scam.

    I know that I don't have enough time to write another 80 characters on this topic because i'm too busy making lots and lots of money.
     
    ChildeRoland, Aug 4, 2006 IP
  9. usachatnow

    usachatnow Peon

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    #69
    hiya everyone, Just wanted to comment on this subject. I am a member of linkmarket and let me explain my experience with them. I've been with link market for 2 years and through the these 2 years my pr rating went from 4 to 2 to 0. At first i figured out that alot of the link partners that were exchanging links with me were removing my link from there site once the process was over. The process is you exchange links and link market spiders each site to make sure you got each of your links on your site. Once that process is done the game is to remove the link so it dont affect your pr rating. Little did i know thats one big reason it killed my pr rating. Also there customor service is the worst. I paid for another year in feb. of this year and now my account is screwed up. I have 2 accounts with them for 2 sites. 1 account is fine the other is screwed up. I have spent 2 months trying to tell them to fix this and i get no response. I have given up with link market and all future link exchanges. One thing i agree with the last persons comment is .. it isnt the qauntity its the quality. I have since got my pr rating up to a pr3 since all this garabage has happen. I am not one to complain or to put blame on others. Alot of this was my fault for not checking my link partners a few weeks after the actual exchange. My best advice on all of this is get few link exchanges with high pr ratings and make sure there site is relevant to yours. And stay away from link farms.

    tears
    http://www.usachatnow.com
     
    usachatnow, Sep 13, 2006 IP
  10. morrie

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    #70
    Guru seems to have valid point and I share in his suspicions (just because you can't prove something doesn't mean it isn't true). It also seems that the only other opinion in this thread has the jeuvenile voice of a link market "sympathizer" (why do I get that impression, too?). They say you don't make sense, while not providing a valid refutation of your points. This only compounds my own suspicions. Hey, if you have something to say, say it! I actually am genuinely interested to see IF you have a point in favor of LM or not.

    As for my experience, I find Guru's points valid. (Something "smelled bad" about link market to me form the start):

    I never really got a relevant link request in more than a year of paid service.

    I found that my Google Page Rank actually went down a full point from my
    seo-optimized code (now that shouldn't happen!)

    I am very careful about my e-mail address being given out and used as SPAM. Can't prove it, but I think linkmarket is the only database that I have given this address to(hmmmmmm) and I had to shut it down because of too much SPAM (where did it come from ? perhaps some of this "webmaster abuse" that Guru mentions).

    Bottom-line: it doesn't work. I think they get their money from other means than the $25/yr. fees they charge (???). Linkmarket did cause me "harm" because my page-rank went down. Should you try it?
    -risk putting your e-mail on spam databases
    -risk lowering you page-rank
    -risk wasting lots of time filtering irrelevant requests

    bad idea.

    Isn't it ironic that ferret and fryman have the same method of replying (with a picture, the same exact dimensions). But have nothing else to say?
     
    morrie, Oct 5, 2006 IP
  11. Cheap SEO Services

    Cheap SEO Services <------DoFollow Backlinks

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    #71
    I have been using Linkmarket for ages and have never seen anything but increases in traffic and PR. Linkmarket gets the big thumbs up from me. The accusation aimed at Fryman and Ferret are in cahoots or are (should I say it?) the same (gulp) person is just a touch on the side of paranoia. Hey! But that's just in my opinion.

    I know Fryman can get a bit nasty at times and Ferret? Well, he's just a funny guy.

    Hope your site reaches PR7 with 1000 uniques per day! Honestly!

    Col :)
     
    Cheap SEO Services, Oct 6, 2006 IP
  12. morrie

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    #72
    I now realize with humility that any reasnoaable, smart webmaster would not have even started linkmarket to begin with (or at least seeing how it is dominated by SPAM industry-not pay for the service).

    You who like it, and get success much just be SPAM industry webmasters, that's what you all have in common (the picture thing is a pretty far-fetched coincidence, though (don't you admit?) not like I lose sleep over it, but if I used picture to reply to a post, it would very likely be a different pixel size).

    Accusation and assumtion aside, why don't you guys who actually get positive results with LM explain what industry website you used it for, and how you dealt with all the (99.9% garbage) irrelevant SPAM-type link requests. Answer me that, and you're of the hook.

    Until then, you guys might've all been hired by Carl Rove.

    A smart webmaster who is immoral could make us all look dumb.
     
    morrie, Oct 6, 2006 IP
  13. yfs1

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    #73
    I used it for niche sites and took advantage of the filters the paid subscription offers, which keeps most of the crap requests from even arriving. I then put all my trades into a program that verifies them every so often and if someone pulls a no follow trick or removes mine, it is gone.

    To be honest, I don't even use them that much anymore (This thread is two years old) but I still wouldn't call it a scam. Its a tool and the benefit you get depends on how you use it. I just find that these days there are way more effective and easy ways to get links.

    Pretty impressive that you went after Fryman in your first post. That usually means you were a member here previously :cool:
     
    yfs1, Oct 6, 2006 IP
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  14. ferret77

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    #74
    that would be me, I am definely a spam industry web master

    If I was going to use linkmarket to trade links for a "real" site, it would be very time consuming reviewing all of the sites

    I would use linkpartners since they review the site for me, but since most of my sites are affiliate sites, my choices are really linkmarket and linkmetro, if I want to trade links that is
     
    ferret77, Oct 6, 2006 IP
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    #75
    i just started using linkmarket and I think its pretty good so far - I mean it seems I get more shoppin malls hittin my site than the actual niche that i want tho
     
    ianternet, Nov 6, 2006 IP
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    #76
    thanks for the advice, iv been using linkmarket.net now for three or four weeks. do you think there are any good links on their site?
     
    rxherbman, Nov 7, 2006 IP
  17. yfs1

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    #77
    If you haven't found any in the first 4 weeks, that might be a bad sign
     
    yfs1, Nov 7, 2006 IP
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    #78
    No way. The original post in this thread is pretty good, actually.
     
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    #79
    i would like to bring backl this post to see hoew people feel now. I continue to use Linkmarket.net and continue to find it working. Again you must be responsible with who you link to.
     
    Barre Tire, Aug 15, 2007 IP
  20. relixx

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    #80
    linkmarket is still worthless. Tons of spam and recip pages are not exactly looked kindly upon by Google...
     
    relixx, Aug 16, 2007 IP