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Discussion in 'Link Development' started by dpak, Jul 19, 2005.

  1. bpearson

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    #41
    I have unlimited

    one correction I have to make the LV will not place a link on a non google cached page. unless the page has had its cache droped by googel and LV Has not had an update of that page. When LV updates the page it will not remove thel link but it will not charge the person for that link. untile the page is rechached by googel.
     
    bpearson, Jul 29, 2005 IP
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  2. Dominic

    Dominic Well-Known Member

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    #42
    Welcome to DigitalPoint bpearson...
     
    Dominic, Jul 30, 2005 IP
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    #43
    Some limition are given for non-paying customers. Although those are minor and not needed really.
     
    City2, Jul 31, 2005 IP
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    #44
    grr annoying. Im trying to get the php code on my html site to work

    trying different methods. Im so confused


    http://fasteasyeloans.com

    can you tell me how to fix that error that pops up. Trying to setup my link vault account.
     
    DamienStone, Aug 2, 2005 IP
  5. yfs1

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    #45
    It may be better to ask that on their forum since they have a section dedicated to helping you set it up
     
    yfs1, Aug 3, 2005 IP
  6. BigBen

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    #46
    Try adding this to your .htaccess file:
    AddType application/x-httpd-php .php .htm .html
     
    BigBen, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  7. BigBen

    BigBen Peon

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    #47
    I've been using LV for a couple weeks. Its a great service. I haven't seen direct results from them, because I haven't left a keyword up to only LV, but I'm sure (with a little empirical evidence) it's making a difference in the keywords I have been targeting.

    And about the comments that said LV didn't have enough sites to get good content matching, I agree. But they're getting new referrals constantly (~50/day), and so the network is certainly growing. You get a 5% (5-10%) bonus for referrers, and that helps people push the word. I'm big into the whole referral thing, and actively solicit (although I won't tell *where*). I had a good idea today that paid off with 50 referrals so far, I'm expecting somewhere between 75-100.

    But anywho, yea, LV is great. All the pages are *supposed* to be cached. Most are, and I'm not worried about anything.

    A word of advice: don't just put the LV code on every page of your site (as was suggested by someone in this thread). I'm a little particular with who I link out to, and "vaultage" is calcualted based on the PR of the page * # of link slots, and so I just put the code on relatively high PR pages of my site, but irrelevant pages, about 10 in total (=50 links), and in return I get over a thousand IBL's! Who could ask for more? Its great for link popularity.
     
    BigBen, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  8. jlawrence

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    #48
    Bigben: I assume that you're working with relatively small sites. Picking and choosing pages to put LV on in a 50K+ page site isn't an option :)
    If you're particular about who you link out to then I'd suggest that any kind of automatic placement network isn't really ideal for you.
    LV isn't the be all and end all of generating links, as with other ad-networks it should be used alongside other linking strategies.

    You may change your mind about where you place the LV code when/if you find yourself needing >50K vaultage to generate your IBLs.

    For anyone who cares, I'm also unlimited.
     
    jlawrence, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  9. BigBen

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    #49
    True. I am working with relatively small sites. But a 50K+ site is going to have a ton of garbage pages with PR <= 1 (or <=2). What's the point of even linking out using LV on that? You'd drop your outbound link count way down, and you'd only lose a little vaultage.

    LV only takes the top X # of pages anyways...
     
    BigBen, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  10. jlawrence

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    #50
    LV takes the top 5000 pages.
    If you're trying to tell me that you'd go through a 50K+ page site and workout what are the 5K top pages then you're bonkers.
    Big sites are dynamically driven (at least most are), it's a piece of cake to add the code to every page, it's not quite as easy to add the code to specific pages and you'd need to workout exactly what pages to add the code to.
    The point is that LV needs low PR pages - it needs way more low value PR pages than it does high value ones. That's the way it works, you get lots of low PR links in before you get the higher PR links - which is how it looks more natural. If no one added the low value link slots then we'd all be shafted.

    This really should be being dicussed on the LV forums rather than here.
    But,
    A 50K+ site will have a ton of low PR pages, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're going to be garbage pages ;). Low PR pages add to your vaultage also. If I had 5K PR0 pages running LV, then I'd generate iro of 7500 vaultage and with that vaultage I can generate a shed load of IBLs for my main sites.

    I have some sites which I just want 1000's of IBL's pointing to - I don't care if they're PR1 or PR0. I don't want the higher PR links yet, simply lots and lots of links. If people didn't add the code to their low PR pages, then I wouldn't get those links.
    When it comes to SERPs, I firmly believe that it's the number of links rather than the PR of the links that is most beneficial - certain big links (like a link from very high power homepages) will carry a lot of weight, but I haven't the funds to start buying PR8/9 links.
     
    jlawrence, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    bloodwrath Active Member

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    #51
    i have a few big site and they provide a ton of vaultage to fuel all my sites
    so now i get way more links cause of them...
    and my vaultage goes up almost every day..
    so big site are a huge bonus
     
    bloodwrath, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  12. jlawrence

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    Yep, my big sites are taking their time to build up their vaultage. None are yet showing 25000 link places, so the vaultage is still growing :)
     
    jlawrence, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    bloodwrath Active Member

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    #53
    mine either, but i dont care, i want the vaultage , so it helps promote any and all others sites i own.
     
    bloodwrath, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    hehehe :D:D we all want lots of V.
    I've currently got about 70K and still need more. That 70K will be used before the next update.
     
    jlawrence, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    #55
    After using the service for a while, I think it works GREAT. The free account offers everything you need (for a small site). I might sign up for a paying account just to help the guys out for offering such a good service. The one feature that isn't in the free account which I need is the ability to ban more domains because I'm getting a lot of jewlery and fashion links on my antivirus software site. :)
     
    dpak, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    #56
    Did link-vault just go boom?
     
    jstroh, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  17. bloodwrath

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    ya it looks to be down..
    im sure it will be fixed soon.
     
    bloodwrath, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    DPAK: he he :)
    I wonder if my jewelry site is one of them.
    I must say, I'm surprised that there are many shopping links showing on a software site - or are you listed under one of the shopping categories.
    Perhaps I should start checking through mysites to remove antivirus links :) - as they're of no relevance to my sites. But then again can I really be bothered to search through the 14,000 (approx) links pointing out from my sites. Erm no I can't.
    If the site is cached in G then I'll link to it, however if I do find out that someone dropped links to my sites then without question I'd ban their sites across all and every site in my account (currently PR4->PR6's)

    LV isn't down from here, and it hasn't been down all day as far as I'm concerned.
    I've been editing links on and off all day - so I would have noticed.
     
    jlawrence, Aug 4, 2005 IP
  19. dpak

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    hehe. That's funny you should mention it, doesn't look like the jewlery one I was refering to is yours (as far as I know), but you've got a link right on my main page for your Plymouth Cricket Club page.

    True, like you were saying earlier, they probably can't keep the links relevant because they don't have enough sites being added to their service. Also, because the links are static, it would only be new sites that they can choose from.
     
    dpak, Aug 4, 2005 IP
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    dpak:
    New sites and new pages. I'm adding about 3 or 4 sites per month at the moment, and all of my sites are still having pages discovered.
    I have one site that's 150K pages indexed (don't know how many cached though) and I'm pretty sure that there will be 5K cached pages in there somewhere. Only two of my sites have actually had all their cached pages found. Only 3 of my sites have all (or nearly all) their link slots filled - suppose I'd better start looking to add some more pages to them :)
     
    jlawrence, Aug 4, 2005 IP