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Link building too fast will get you baneed, so what would you call too fast??

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by seobeginner, Aug 2, 2008.

  1. 1EightT

    1EightT Guest

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    #21
    I can tell you from real live experiments that that simply isn't the case. So many people give opinions without any facts or first hand experience to back it up. The fact of the matter is that incoming links are not going to lead to a ban. If that were the case I would spend my days knocking my competition out of the serps by link spamming them to death (which i've tried).
     
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  2. LindaAdams

    LindaAdams Active Member

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    #22
    he is right, you have 0% control of who is linking to you!!!
    If this were the case we could ban google from google
     
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  3. DomainMagia

    DomainMagia Peon

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    #23
    Actually... you can be banned because of incoming link spamming. Too much too fast will mark your site with red flag and spam bot will come to "take a closer look". Regular action is just devaluation of these links, that way they do not pass PR or anchor text benefit. Even human editor from Matt Cutts division can be invited to review manually your site and links. In case they find something fishy enough (something that indicates site owner involvement in spamming) your site can be banned.
     
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  4. 1EightT

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    #24
    Show me a single instance of this in action. I've done hundreds of experiments across 10's of thousands of domains.
     
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    Cruelio.com Peon

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    #25
    stop scaring me!
     
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    #26
    I'm seriously doubting thousands of domains.
     
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  7. Brandon Sheley

    Brandon Sheley Illustrious Member

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    #27
    I guess we'll have to check this thread in 2 months then and see these "amazing" results :rolleyes:
    wrong wrong wrong... so your saying one link that makes it to the front page of digg isn't worth much more then 10 articles that make it to the front page of digg...
    so do I
     
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    #28
    it will vary from website to website. Just keep making pages that are rich in content and get more links.
     
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  9. DomainMagia

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    #29
    At first let me mention, that controlled link building for PR increase or better SERP is against Google webmaster quality guidelines. Google officially accepts only natural links + quality directories. So, if they just can detect paid links or any other unnatural links, these links will be devalued or site will be penalized or banned depending on scoop of spam.

    I can`t find source quite now, but there was a case with beautiful looking Wordpress theme for free download. Theme included backlink to the authors homepage. He didn`t expect that theme will be popular amongst porn blogs and author will have thousands of incoming links from variety of porn sources... Yes, this guy got his penalty.

    I completely agree that penalties or banning because of incoming links are very rare, in most cases link seller or linking side will be punished at first.
     
    DomainMagia, Aug 5, 2008 IP
  10. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    #30
    I have been looking at your backlinks for your blogs and would like to say your technique is only heading you for a massive downfall.

    You are going to get penalised when google see. why have that many links with no power whatsoever??

    What is the point? instead of having 3000 crappy links I would rather have 3 really good ones

    I am sure that your name reflects your seo techniques
     
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  11. seobeginner

    seobeginner Well-Known Member

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    #31
    i have about 250 links right now..this is jsut the beginning

    i plan to finish up on around 50k links

    if i tried to get 50k,pr5 quality links, you know how long that would take me? 100 years?

    its not possible to get thousands of top quality links, it takes forever , you think some of these sites with 13 million links at the top of google are all top quality?

    even if google doesnt like it, im still gonna have traffic from other search engines
     
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  12. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    #32

    I am just trying to give you the correct advise, but you go and get your 50k links and see where your site ends up. Of course it will take awhile to build up quality links but you in no way need 50k

    Put it this way if you did your link building and I did mine I guarantee my site would rank higher than yours

    Quality not quantity
     
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    seobeginner Well-Known Member

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    #33
    i wasnt flaming..

    yeah this is how my theory is gonna work:

    i get my 50k backlinks.

    google may not like this and sandbox me for a while BUT other search engines wont, and i can get plenty of traffic from the other ones, and everntually google will love me again and i will get traffic from google, as it will see my rankings at the top of other search engines and place my high on its.
     
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    #34

    At this very moment I have 12,000 domains and at least 30,000 sub domains active. It's blackhat, it's a numbers game. Believe what you want.
     
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  15. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    #35
    google is not stupid if they do not like them links then they will never count for anything. This has nothing to do with sandbox google will never give credit for these links same with all the other big guns

    If you are looking to impress the smallest search engines than be my guest
     
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    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    #36
    It wont lead to a ban but it will lead to penalisation between 30-90 days unless you can prove otherwise.

    And the links will count for zilch. Trust me guys Google is very clever its not 1998 anymore :)
     
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    #37
    lol, they don't do 30-90 day penalties. Worst case scenario you are looking at is that the low quality links aren't going to be counted by google. Guess what though, the other search engines are likely to count them and either way your overall rankings and traffic will increase. But, what do I know, I just make my living online....
     
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    #38
    boy do i wish that were true. one toxic site or network can get you penalized.
     
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  19. ExtremistOak

    ExtremistOak Well-Known Member

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    #39
    You really dont have a clue do you??

    I do SEO for a living and you get penalised for periods, or you can get penalised indefinatley until the problem that caused you getting penalised is rectified. Dont believe me or think you know it all approach google and ask them this question yourself

    Thanks
     
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    #40
    You guys can go on living in the SEO stone age all you want. Someone here doesn't rank for a term and they start saying it's a new penalty. This junk pops up on seo forums all the time. Just because you can't rank doesn't make it true.....
     
    1EightT, Aug 5, 2008 IP