Link Building Mistake

Discussion in 'Link Development' started by bloggingmix, Jan 14, 2010.

  1. amirbahal

    amirbahal Member

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    #21
    i agree with you :)
     
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  2. the_dreamer

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    #22
    I agree. Just imagine how many links per day those high authority websites like cnn.com get each day. But they never get banned by Google.
     
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  3. scheng1

    scheng1 Peon

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    #23
    i dont think Google will ban the site for too many links from directories. The links are not quality links anyway.
     
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  4. Grit.

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    #24
    There could be numerous ways to get an influx of links, and so google won't be penalising for that, you have to remember, not all these backlinks will be providing the same juice back, and they have other parts of googles PR algorithm to contend with. It could appear that sites have been penalised, but from what i've read, which i can't certify, you can't increase your pr by more than so many on each update (though that may be wrong). It's the quality of backlinks, most that you pay for are low PR etc, and google doesn't always index your site on a basis where it gets updated in real time etc, so it could also take time to see the changes.
     
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  5. supersi

    supersi Peon

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    #25
    One of the best ways to avoid a potential penalty from in-bound links, is to vary the anchor text.

    If all of the links pointing to your site are 100% the same, this could trip a filter/penalty. By using a few variations, you should be able to safely by-pass this penalty.
     
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  6. bloggingmix

    bloggingmix Active Member

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    #26
    Of course these are all our opinions as no one really knows exactly how Google handles this issue. But authorities in SEO have spoken and they're saying that excessive links accumulated over a short period of time could be treated as spams by Google, especially if the site is relatively new. However Google's algorithm is getting more complex, which means we can't belittle it's ability to distinguish spams and legit links. :)
     
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  7. bloggingmix

    bloggingmix Active Member

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    #27
    CNN.com is an established website and has been consistently receiving huge amount of links. If it were a new site, the link could be regarded as spams by Google.
     
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  8. geoiss2004

    geoiss2004 Guest

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    #28
    that's all well and good, but there's a couple of issues with that:

    1) how does one target a keyword if you have to keep changing the anchor text?

    2) what about site names? i.e. a company is called "red shoes", redshoeslondon.com, and their anchor is "red shoes" - this is perfectly legitimate. would google know the difference?
     
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  9. jdoug

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    #29
    That sounds pretty accurate.

    Does google give any sort of warning before they ban one of your sites or does it just happen?
     
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  10. bloggingmix

    bloggingmix Active Member

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    #30
    I have to agree that varying your anchor text of your link is better than using all and the same anchor text. The link would look more natural if the links were using varying anchor texts. You can use related anchor texts like:

    red shoes, london red shoes, london shoes, fashionable red shoes.
     
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  11. forump

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    #31
    I have once my site banned, but I do not know why... no backlink for a period of time and still banned
     
    forump, Jan 15, 2010 IP
  12. geoiss2004

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    #32
    i do understand the reasoning behind mixing anchor text but my point was official company names. but i suppose if it reflects the domain it carries more weight...

    how much would you recommend mixing the anchor?
     
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  13. Trevor75

    Trevor75 Greenhorn

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    #33
    This statement is so true. Unfortuantly people buy web submssion services and have 3,000 links submitted in less then a week. Then wonder why their PR hasn't gone up. Personally I submitted between 25 to 50 links per day. You'd be surprised how fast it adds up. I had a site go from N/A to a ranking of 2 in just 60 days, not too bad. Just be patient and do your work, the rewards will come.
     
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  14. Xactor201

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    #34
    Yes true, I heard of many people who have gotten penalized for submitting too many backlinks in a short amount of time. I am trying to slowly build up my backlinks with only 30-50 a day as well.
     
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  15. bloggingmix

    bloggingmix Active Member

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    #35
    It's not bad to buy directory submission services, if the service provider knows what he is doing or if he has the best interest of his client. Try our directory submission services and see the difference, or your money back. :)
     
    bloggingmix, Jan 17, 2010 IP
  16. maryjoanna

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    #36
    yeah this is correct, because I saw someone having thousand of backlinks although does not any value and worst of all, all backlinks are located on the same domain except it was on different folders and these backlinks are just keyword stuffing and that website got pr3 in 2 weeks...amazing how blackhats can fool google with that technique...but don't try it it is very unethical.
     
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  17. simplyg123

    simplyg123 Well-Known Member

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    #37
    My question is, considering google doesn't crawl every site at the same time, how could it possibly know when the links were submitted. Not to mention sometimes it takes weeks to be approved even after submitting a link.

    so it would seem that even though you submit the sites all at once, it will take a period of time to have all of them indexed as backlinks.

    Make since at all?
     
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  18. AWS

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    #38
    1000 directories is nothing in 1-2 days there should not be a problem with this as long as you dont use the same anchor text
     
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  19. bloggingmix

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    #39
    Make sense but we can't belittle Google's technology. It's getting better everyday. :)
     
    bloggingmix, Jan 20, 2010 IP
  20. jdoug

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    #40
    That's an understatement.
    Look what's going on between google and China.
     
    jdoug, Jan 20, 2010 IP