Link Building and SEO - Real FACTS of Link building

Hi there,

Its been a while since I posted anything here, I have reading all recent post at the link development section and I found everyone willing links (as usual) but it seems everyone lost the true purpose of getting links from other sites, it is true we all want first places in SERP , we all want traffic to our websites therefore we all want someone buying a product from our website or purchasing a service or just clicking an Ad.

We all forgot the main purpose of getting links from other sites: Traffic. Imagine your site getting traffic from other related topic websites, that will do all your purpose with your site, you would get targeted traffic and costumers, no matter if you get 100 visitors per day, but if from those 100 visitors 80% percent make a transaction on your website you could win more than if you get 10000 random visitors where from those 10000 visitors 20 were interested on your website and if you are lucky just 3 bought something or nothing, so you waste a lot of bandwith and win a little or nothing.

Google's main idea to use backlinks is to gain authority, if a website links to other related topic website, the main idea is that the first website is sending traffic to the second website and the first website is telling their users to trust the second website as a good source of what they are looking for, that is the main idea of backlinks.

You don't need 1000 links to get a good SE position what you need is to get links from related sites, use an appropiate use of keywords in the anchor text and and make shure to get traffic from those websites.

I've got this Artificial Intelligence website and at the very beginning a tried to get links from anywhere even I hired a directory submission service. After two months the webiste gain PR of 3 but just 10 visitors per day and all crapy, so I decided to research a little bit deeper and use common sense. I searched for related websites, forums, blogs and I wrote some articles and I stared to post comments on blogs and forums leading the readers to visit my website, they did visit it, also a I posted a link on wikipedia and I get traffic from wikipedia. When I realize my website was getting around 500 visitors per day from different sites, but most important many people started to link to my website from their websites. Now the website has PR of 5 it appears just below of wikipedia on two of 5 of the main keywords on Google and the real fact is that the website don't have more than 300 real backlinks.

Conclusion:

Linking from other websites is to get traffic from them and I mean targeted traffic interested visitors not crapy ones, use appropiated keywords on your backlinks: descriptive and include the one you want to optimize for SE.

Regards.

 

I'm pretty sure the main purpose of getting links on other websites is for SERPs increases.

The real traffic comes from rankings in Google, not other sites.

 

I am not agree with you traffic also comes from other sites

 

No as someone who specializes in seo. The backlinks you obtain from others in your keyword base. Not only builds your pr with google and other search engines. You will also get massive traffic to your site with highly potential buyers because they are coming from a site related to your site. Even though I have a pr on one of my sites of 6 I only get about 3-400 visitors a day to that site from google and other search engines. How ever the site is generating over 1000 visitors a day. 1/4 of the left over traffic is coming from social media sites like twitter, stumbleupon, reddit, and dig. While another 1/4 is coming from ads I have paid to place on other sites. Then the last 1/2 is traffic directly from comment post I have made on sites targeting my keywords.

I do the same thing as he stated above however. I will start out buy entering in my target keyword and add blog to search for blogs targeting that keyword. I then start at the top of the page and work down. If they are a blogger type blog where I know I will get a do follow link. I will make a comment. If it is a wordpress I find comments and see if they are a do follow site before I will join to make a comment. You really need to know how the search engines work first inorder to get good ranking.

 

Yes, that is the point I am trying to get to, backlinks are not only for search engines, they also bring traffic to you.

 

Let me get this straight nikomaster. You are effectively saying that 'advertise' on relevant site so that resulting traffic has a good conversion rates. You know most sites won't link to you unless you pay them, and that's why PPC is so popular with both publishers and advertisers.

It looks like you are a bit confused into thinking that people will link to you for free.. If you are paying you are effectively going for a CPC or CPM campaign. For most business, SEO is cheaper.

 

very good post nicomaster and absolutely spot on...
to jitendraag, there's so many people linking to authority websites for free (like google for webmaster), and Google are not paying them for a link... see the point... webmasters link to google not because they are paid but because it's useful for their visitors.
Like nicomaster I started with directories, well they are easy, and I got pr 3 instantly, but in serp I was doing rubbish (page 10 - 25 google and yahoo). Now I did so posting on relevant websites (sometimes I paid for blog reviews) and now, just after a month I got to page 2-3 in google and still moving up but much slower.
By the way now I get more traffic from other websites as well and thus not only I improved my serp but I got more traffic from other places.

 

ThaX fore the informations.

 

WHy . can get many refferrel traffic.. IF advertise the site in good sites(news paer, dating portal etc).. will get enough traffic from it....

 

Yes, I agree but getting a link main purpose is to get traffic from it the second purpose is to get a vote for the search engines.

 

Only a little traffic would come from the related sites.We should have a good position on google,i think this is important.

 

Pr and traffic rankings are 2 diffrent things ...

 

No matter if is a liittle if you get many links you will get much more and improve greatly your SERP

 

I think everyone is getting out the scope, you guys are to obscesed to achive high rankings on SERP that forgot SEO is about marketing and backlinking is a strategy either to attract more visitors and to improve SERP,

What do think a visitor will think if he or she sees a link a website? Wow!! A backlink the owner of this link it's really improving his website rankings!! Lets check if it has the nofollow tag to make shure!!! NO! he or she has no matter for the backlinks, he will visit the link if gets interested otherwise will do other anything else.

 

SEO is about driving the most highly targeted traffic to your website possible.

What most people forget about SEO (and what most SEO people's jobs are not) is that SEO is not marketing. SEO is a distribution of a marketing message. A person who knows the ins-and-outs of SEO may not know exactly how to market a product or understand the complexities of what the market is looking for. In fact, most people I speak to on forums like DigitalPoint is that they are complete morons when it comes to marketing, however they are geniuses when it comes to getting on top of Google. I work with a partner and to be completely honest, getting on top of Google is not my strong suit.

My strong suit is marketing. And insuring that when he drives a customer to our or a clients website, that they make a sale. I tell him which keywords I need to be ranked for, he does it. He tells me what the client wants to sell, I make it sell.

For people who are marketing their own site, they forget the power of a marketing message. You don't need to drive millions to your website (unless you only run on adsense), you need to drive the people where your product or service solves their problems and is just enough where they say "ok" and they get out their visa card.

 

I am sorry but I am not agree with you, SEO is about marketing because you are promoting a website.

 

Hi nikomaster,
Thanks for the informative article about link building. This is very good info for SEO.

 

Really everyone is a little "right" here. We all have our own methods and usually no matter what someone else tells us, we will ponder on the way we want to believing we are "right." Who cares.

It's a known fact that Google and other search engines are looking for websites with high value content and links to other sites with similar high value content for your visitors. We can't control incoming links so they aren't valued as much as far as SEO. But...

Incoming links are what we need to get visitors to our sites. I click links from other sites all the time. If I'm happy with the site that I clicked through to, I would then normally go back to the referrer site in the future, if I'm not, (or every link is an ad) then I probably won't be going back.

We can smell em a mile away. Link farms, links everywhere that have absolutely nothing to do with the site at all, it's tacky and a turn off for your visitors. They are only thinking about what it is that they are looking for so, if you're going to help them accomplish that then they will like. trust and recommend your site. Be selective as if you were making a family website.

Nikomaster is telling you exactly how to get free golden backlinks to your site. Post in forum, answer questions, submit articles, answer those Yahoo questions. Permanent relevant backlinks. They add up.

I haven't optimized or monetized my new site but I'm on the first page of Google from a forum post.

((stepping off of soap box))
I would imagine if we just tried to focus on giving our members what they are looking for while optimizing, you can't go wrong.

Cher

 

Finally!!, someone understood!

 

Good points but it's sort of like the chicken and the egg argument at this point. Did you get the links because you had the traffic, or did you get more links and more PR which gave you the traffic. Either way we have to live in reality, and not an ideal situation so link building is somewhat of a necessity. Proper site indexing, ranking are all determined by links and some other factors. Yes, the goal is ultimately traffic, which can be had through direct means of social media and other related niches like you suggested: posting on blogs, related forums, writing niche articles, etc, but if you can get steady consistent SE traffic that is where the real $$ is made because it won't require as much upkeep as other campaigns.