Life found on Mars, god does not exist.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Roman, Aug 9, 2010.

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    I believe that we are very close to finding microbial life on Mars, if not elsewhere in our solar system so for arguments sake for all you religious people, assuming that we do prove life exists on some other planet or moon, how will you react?

    Will you deny it as a conspiracy?
    Will you try to reinterpret the bible to account for this?
    Will you give up on god?
     
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  2. Darpie

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    Finding life somewhere else in the universe wouldn't disprove any religion (unless the religion said that God only created life on Earth), let alone the existence of God.
     
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    For religious people nothing will disprove god, as god is not something that comes from reason and knowledge. And if god is not related with logic/science, logic/science can not be used to disprove it.
    However, the agnostics will HAVE to shift to the atheist side, because of simple mathematics:
    If life was found on two different planets orbiting the same star, and given the fact that life on earth started not too long after its creation some 3 billion years ago, this mean that the universe is abundant with million different planets with life.
     
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    Why not think of it the other way around? If life is found on another planet, then God does exist. Perhaps you would provide an explanation towards how that microorganism appeared on Mars (Hint, it is not Evolution and definitely not Big bang) ?
    We believe that God created us humans and other organisms as described in Genesis. That being said, creation did not end in Genesis and never will.
     
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    Discovering life in Mars wouldn't automatically mean God instantly decided to put life there BUT we just failed to discover it sooner and life in Mars might have been there all along, billions of years ago.

    But of course, It wasn't mentioned in Genesis that creation stopped so I don't think Religious people will disapprove or deny the possibility.
     
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    Sigh, evolution doesn't say how life was created and neither does the Big Bang. Next you'll post that evolution says humans were born from monkeys.
     
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    I was being sarcastic. Read my post carefully.
     
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    I believe we are very close to find out that our govt is communicating quite often to intelligent extra terrestials to decide on its future policies , assuming that your govt is taking help of super intelligent aliens , will you deny your govt as conspiracy ? will you try to reniterpret your knowledge of science , will you loose faith in your govt ?
     
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    Doesn't it say in the Qur'an that we are not alone in this universe?
     
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    Because some of us can think logically and rationally....
     
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    A very big IF which hasn't happened at all yet, so why deal in speculations?
     
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    As for me the best proof of existence of the God is our conscience! How can you explain it in other way except the fact that conscience is God's voice in the people?
     
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    Well I think we also shouldn't close the possibility that IT might happen even if it's just a very big IF.
     
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    All that is created is included in the Garden - the Garden is the physical presence of the Creator.

    The planet itself (Mars) is a reflection of God as well as the stones and all other matter having their place in the Great Society of the everlasting.

    A stone is a form of life.
     
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    The existence of god is an even bigger IF...
     
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    I totally agree with that.
     
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    Your so called rational thinking does not explain the origin of life.
     
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    how does finding life on another planet debunk religion?
     
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    Roman Buffalo Tamer™

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    The Bible and ETs
    It is often asked, ‘Just because the Bible teaches about God creating intelligent life only on Earth, why couldn’t He have done so elsewhere?’ After all, Scripture does not discuss everything, e.g. motorcars. However, the biblical objection to ET is not merely an argument from silence. Rather, understanding the big picture of the Bible/gospel message allows us to conclude clearly that the reason the Bible doesn’t mention extraterrestrials (ETs) is that there aren’t any.1

    1.The Bible indicates that the whole creation groans and travails under the weight of sin (Romans 8:18–22). The effect of the Curse following Adam’s Fall was universal.2 Otherwise what would be the point of God destroying this whole creation to make way for a new heavens and Earth—2 Peter 3:13, Revelation 21:1 ff? Therefore, any ETs living elsewhere would have been (unjustly) affected by the Adamic Curse through no fault of their own—they would not have inherited Adam’s sin nature.
    2.When Christ (God) appeared in the flesh, He came to Earth not only to redeem mankind but eventually the whole creation back to Himself (Romans 8:21, Colossians 1:20). However, Christ’s atoning death at Calvary cannot save these hypothetical ETs, because one needs to be a physical descendant of Adam for Christ to be our ‘kinsman-redeemer’ (Isaiah 59:20). Jesus was called ‘the last Adam’ because there was a real first man, Adam (1 Corinthians 15:22,45)—not a first Vulcan, Klingon etc. This is so a sinless human Substitute takes on the punishment all humans deserve for sin (Isaiah 53:6,10; Matthew 20:28; 1 John 2:2, 4:10), with no need to atone for any (non-existent) sin of his own (Hebrews 7:27).
    3.Since this would mean that any ETs would be lost for eternity when this present creation is destroyed in a fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10, 12), some have wondered whether Christ’s sacrifice might be repeated elsewhere for other beings. However, Christ died once for all (Romans 6:10, 1 Peter 3:18) on the earth. He is not going to be crucified and resurrected again on other planets (Hebrews 9:26). This is confirmed by the fact that the redeemed (earthly) church is known as Christ’s bride (Ephesians 5:22–33; Revelation 19:7–9) in a marriage that will last for eternity.3 Christ is not going to be a polygamist with many other brides from other planets.
    4.The Bible makes no provision for God to redeem any other species, any more than to redeem fallen angels (Hebrews 2:16).

    http://creation.com/did-god-create-life-on-other-planets

    But I'm sure your religions will adapt just like they did when it was proved the earth wasn't flat nor was it the center of the universe, heck even the pope is starting to accept evolution and those who believe the earth is only 5000 years old are becoming quite the minority.
     
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    Good try to hide your ignorance with claiming that you were "sarcastic".
     
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