Life After PR - Yes or No

Oh c'mon man ! Stop your generalization. If you really are trustworthy, honest and what you say true intentions just reveal who you are and we can think more whether to pursue your ideas and intentions. But before doing that and accusing PAID Directories of anything come out in the open and stop hiding in the bushes and curtains.

Just my 2.

 

That's part of the point: I don't think you have any clear idea of what your little "association" is intended to be or do.

See my previous comments. You haven't addressed any of them.

 

I guess so, except you left out MFA and article sites.

It's like "spam" - not as easy as you might think to come up with a definition but show me an email and I'll tell you if it's spam or not. Similarly, give me the URL for a directory and I'll tell if you if it's a crap directory or not.

 

What dont you understand about the points I have raised? Ask a civil question and I will try my best to answer you. But please cut out the sarcasm and try to be a little more positive. I still cant see where you find the word Regulatory.

What I dont like about this market is the fact that there is an over supply of directories and most of them have little or no long term value. Whats driving them? Who is going to renew that domain name? Who is paying for the hosting?

If I am going to submit my site to a directory I want an odds on chance that its still going to be around in five years time. This is a high volume, low value market and its costs me time and resources to submit my sites to the directories I use. The longer the directory lasts the more value I get from the listing. That much is simple.

I would like to hook up with others who understand why this is importantant to me and who might be interested in working together and cutting through all the crap.

 

Your right minstrel. Its also easy to smell crap as well.

An example of a crap directory:

rippenapples dot com (and no I'm not saying that just because its my site )

Why my directory is crap? Well, Probably around 95% of the categories are empty. No links, no nothing. The unique content I have dealing with phpLD is pretty much useless to internet surfers, unless of course your a phpLD owner (which is obviously a tiny tiny tinnnnny % of the actual internet surfers out there).

I checked my stats and noticed I got already 15 visits from Google this month with the keywords "how to ripen apples", "when do apples ripen", etc. And believe me, it makes me feel like CRAP. I would be pissed off if I was a real user trying to look up this information and to end up finding a site that talks about phpLD. For this, I do plan on researching one day about the topic of fruits ripening and offering it as a resource to those actually searching and finding my site.

But just because my directory is indeed real crappy right now, doesn't mean I don't have plans to making it a quality one. And I also want to say sorry to all those directories that had to review my site and actually approve it. At the same time, also want to say thanks for accepting it and I'm pretty sure the reason it was accepted because it does have a little potential (unique template, no sitewide links, and at least some unique content).

I think I knew my directory was crap 2 weeks after launching it. I even put down my submit page because of this fact.

I also know that in the future, when I do revamp and wait out Googles PR update, I will actually commit time being an editor. You know, go out and actually search for worthy sites to add to my categories vs. just wait for paid submissions and hope that my categories fills up on itself.

So my point in this reply is to point out that there are crap directories and just because they are crap now, doesn't mean directory owners can't freshen up a bit.

 

Correct yourself before talking about others

http://www.psychlinks.ca/

Your main page looks like a spam to me

If you ever submit your site to any of my directories I would reject your site

As I do n't want hacked sites to be in my directory

see here http://support.psychlinks.ca/


He is a c..p and he does n't even know that his site has been hacked!!!

You are a real ps...o and BS

 

Try telling, how many million Chinese are there.....that casinos are bad for their well being. And then there is porn. How do you draw the line between dating sites, steamy dating sites, porn and the very very nasty porn?

Being a bit presumptuous are we not?

 

Of course it would - you're a moron.

Yeah... like THAT would ever happen.

Thanks for the alert. Fixing that now.

 

Is that psychologist speak for 'your a moron!' Seriously, I've been reading your replies minstrel, its kinda sad that your so condescending to this guy workshop who talks about an association, he's entitled to an opinion without the need for a senior (and to my mind, a respected member) of the forum to put him down like you did and get into playground fighting. As a psychologist your a member of an association right? Respect people's views even if you don't agree with them.

 

that's why I have already said that he is not real psychologist , he has become like a patient!

 

Ranked next to mine, I am afraid your directory must earn that rare "quality" status. My sites really are crap. We have spent nothing setting them up, we run them on a shoestring and they really are empty. The difference however is that I am showing a sixty year old curator of a badly underfunded nature reserve how to build a resource and earn a bit more money for herself and the reserve. This is something which she would like to understand, it suites me and its the sort of resource Google might just well recognise and grant "Authority" status to one day.

Useless for giving serp power? I dont see it. To the contrary, the site is indexed, the links count just like those expensive ones on Aviva and at $5 to review a submission its a bargain. Whats more we dont fill our categories with stuffing just for appearances sake, we keep the review fees from MFA sites we reject and we can offer fifty more of the same sort of thing.

These are organic links we are touting and I would like you to tell me once more that the Regulatory body I have proposed is not going to work. Minstral all I can say is chin up sunshine You need to retune your machine before you run a bearing.

 

Now thats a good point! If psychologists, medical practitioners and lawyers set up their own Association, why can't directory owners do the same? Why are people trying to put down this effort?

 

Many people are afraid of change and possibly because there seems to be some kind of heirachy in place here where some people think they are better than others, who knows.

I know the minstrel does not think that, he is blunt and sometimes sarcastic but he makes his point, my advice when reading his posts is to read between the lines, his messages are pretty accurate, just ignore the sarcasm and wit, that comes with being a psych.

Others I'm not too sure about others here, I respect many here even if I don't always show it, I for one want to see people guide me not knock me or condemn me for my atttitude, as this is racist, I'm who I am I can't help the way I speak.

At least with an association you can ask questions and hopefully get answers from senior people who know answers and not just think they do. It would be tough to set up but one day it will be I'm sure.

One thing for sure, a professional association will definately take away the playground mentality often seen on this forum where once one has a go at you the rest start piling in throwing insults.

 

What is mistrials point? Damned if I can work out what he is getting at other than the fact that he has reduced everything to a drab shade of grey and that we should be sucking lemons for fun. If he has nothing constructive to contribute better to say nothing at all.

How many people are going to take a bath when the bottom drops out of the PR market? How may eople are taking bath? Why was that balloon to fly in the first place? We have more forums than we can shake a stick at and most of them permit members to speak their mind. How did this market get so bent out of shape?

The answers obvious and people like Minstrel should ask themselves what part they played and why.

 

i think maybe this will improve directorys, if there was a sort of... code of conduct

 

What we need is a purpose and some good press instead of trying to pretend we are something we are not. Its the dfference between short term skimming and adding value to what we all do.

 

Trust me on this one, most people on here got a purpose of self gratification, some even have the 'ID' to feed, people here call it the qbc, (minstrel as a pyschologist will understand what 'ID' means,)

The problem is that certain areas have formed on the directory scene and they do very nicely out of it, but if your face don't fit or like me and you we have open ideas then you'll get slammed as arrogant, self opinionated aholes. In truth we're no better or lower than these people who think they are something more.

The one's with dillusions of grandeur (another psychological term) are the ones' who are probably most afraid of an association being formed just in case they don't get picked to be on any governing body.

http://www.directory-owners-association.com/more_about.htm

Me I don't want to be on any governing body, I like being governed but by people who have the balls to go on and represent us on an association and represent us at these Google fairs and stuff, my guess is that most here who claim to know it all won't ever do that as they will get found out that they don't know it all and that's why they don't want any organisation. I want advice and help, I want to network and most of all I want to stop all the childish bitching and playground gang culture that exists on forums like this. (This is not everyone, its select groups and they know who they are).

I signed up and know of others that have, to me I'd rather have faceless professionals advising me than faceless clowns constantly putting me down for speaking against the grain.

 

I have mailed them although I feel a lot more comfortable with the company of clowns. Stuffy professionals are inclined to get up my nose.

In the meantime however I think its time to stop arsing around (....cough) and to start addressing real issues. We have set up a marketing network, are unashamedly greedy, just like most and what we believe is that we need to offer the contributers submitting sites to our directories, the confidence of knowing that our link farms will still be around and still producing in five or ten years time.

How am I doing? Does anyone see where I am going to with this?

 

We don't even know if these people are going to be stuffy professionals? besides from what I read they are going to work for us not above us. I'm in the wait and see mode making sure no-one takes my name.