So, let's say you don't sort by PR... anymore ideas? PR is not perfect, everyone knows it, but it's by far the best way to do the job IMHO. **Nice 3333 posts**
I'm certainly not a "perfect little angel". But there are plenty of us out here who have nonprofit sites, who spend our own money and receive none in return, hopefully to bring something of benefit to the end user.
1. I know not what the future holds, yet there just may be some hope. 2. I doubt we'll ever see an end to this arguement, but we can choose to participate or ignore it. 3. Call me a liar or better yet, ignorant as I like to think that not all directories are about Google and the little green bar. There are quite a few worthy exceptions that have emerged after a number of years in the making. 4. I think this would take time to develop as most of the directories that we all refer to are still struggling with infancy and have a ways to go before they'll even reach puberty. 5. That would depend on the target market? Maybe a shift in focus might help, I really don't know. 6. I hope I'm keeping it in check; I do like to see others succeed and have done what little I can to help some of them. 7. Regardless of the color of the reputation received, just know that you've made an impression on someone that was significant enough to cause them to respond and engage the thought process once again. Idling along in neutral gets us no where, it's time to shift into gear and let out the clutch.
Yes indeed some do... From your avatar (if that is you) I will assume you are retired and probably fairly comfortable in life. But you have to realize some of us need to make a living and feed our kids. So you can't blame anyone for wanting to make a living...
I asked a crystal ball and it said: The Crystal Ball's reply: Things are most likely going to start changing for you soon... So thats pretty much set in stone really... lucky or what?? PS: I asked if directories would survive.
well evidently it works Submissions today have been off the ricter scale What can i say ... everybody sitting on thier thumbs wont get them to the top ... submitting to directories will
Ahh, I am glad that you brought this up. non-profit entities are a funny thing, sometimes the directors of "non-profit" organizations make $XXX,XXX+ a year. However for people like you, that run a website with no ads, no revenue at all, you are just providing a service to the users. That is great, but even that is for self gratification, think about it, why do we do anything that is considered "good" so that we feel good about ourselves. So you see any good we do, we do for our own gratification, subconsciously. BUT it is better to do it for own gratification, than to not do it at all. More power to everyone that can run a website that gets no revenue. (Actually I am developing a website that will get me no profit, but I enjoy the niche so it's worth it) +rep
Blah Blah Why do people keep saying to make directories for the end user. People dont go to directories to find sites, sorry. Directories are not used. Who really cares what you sort by? No one is looking through your directory for quality listings to go visit. The only people that are browsing through your directory is webmasters trying to find the category to submit to. Directories are for people to sell links on. You can play the whole "Pay to get your site reviewed" card if you want but its BS. You made a directory to make money, you make money by selling links. If you want to make a quality directory then dont accept submissions of any sort and fill the directory with the listings you choose. No QUALITY site is going around submitting to directories anyways. The high quality sites that end users are looking for dont care about being listed in directories.
You are correct. And I am totally in favor of people working hard to make a living and support themselves and their families (I worked for 47 years ). I just wanted to make a point, contrary to the OP, that not all webmaster activity is motivated by greed.
Hmm, that a curious statement for several reasons: • Google encourages submitting to quality directories like Yahoo! • Plenty of "quality sites" owned by DP members submit to directories. • Directories give valid backlinks, which are recognized favorably by the search engines. • Some directories give traffic. I get modest amounts of traffic from some of the better directories.
Everything you mentioned has to deal with webmasters. Nothing about end users which is "supposed" to be what directories are for. That was the point of my post.
Agree I agree those whom think that people are thier to view the "pretty sites" are dead wrong as i can choose any search engine to do that within seconds by adding two three words in the box and poooof what i was looking for. You will always have a few surfers that cruise the listings but traffic.. Those where the good old days... until change is made Disagree I dont see myself as a "link dealer" as "we dont accept garbage in our directories" for "any amount of money...period" and Ive never said "ill add you to All our directories for a buck or two" and Never will. Whether you choose to believe that i do "reviews" for the money is up to you, but every dollar made goes right back into the "business" hosting/editors/coders/advertising/ect ect ( YES it cost money to operate a business) so that we can advance with better technology and offer those that trusted us a vote/link that will help them reach better rankings because they deserved it, .....not cause they simply paid for inclusion. PS ... do you own any directories anymore? or just the bid directory? thx malcolm
man theres some rudeness in the world..why would someone tell you to F@$k your mom over a thread comment?
They are, no space for discussion, But unless this changes, we have more penalties coming our way! perhaps the way some went from "link" => "sites" "submission fee" => "review fee" with the next set of penalties or "strong messages" [lmao] this element will also change! if they reach puberty. A shift in focus is required, unless that happens, the directory industry will cry out with more penalties come your way! Stinging fact, but a fact none the less! the directory [ as they are made , the script im talking about ] is made on a B2B [business to business model] hence google does support submitting to yahoo/ dMoz and directories in genral, But a B2C [business to customer] element is required, is essential,. and is inevitable for the survival in the Web2.0 enviroment! which if i may call it is full of P2P socail communities! B2B is/ will be the smallest niche left in Web2.0, wake up take note!
Don't you think that Sergey Brin and Larry Page were told the same thing? You have to be optimistic and hope for the best, witha little perseverance we can overcome anything. Also, I think end users care will care more about finding the most useful information slower, than getting less accurate not as informative information faster. Think of directories as manual search engines, the pro is that the information can be more informative, the con is that it takes longer to get to.
Ok I think you are a little misguided. Why should directories only be about pagerank? Don't you think that for the most part Google will squash that eventually?
this is where slowly but steadily Wikipedia is taking over google, when i need info i add "wiki" to my search, and i get all the ifno about that topic! slower than three words, but more comprehensive than three words!
So you admit that just because Google is faster than directories, people might not always use Google for information?
This is about as contradictory as you can ever get. You've got what is it? 50 plus directories yet you say you think no one is ever gonna use them? you then say your not a link dealer but you deal in selling links? So what do you have so many directories for?