Lets see if a real pro will share targeted traffic secrets

Discussion in 'General Marketing' started by BrianJump, Apr 26, 2006.

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    I have read weeks worth of site traffic building tips on this board and webdev forums (will not list others in respect of this site) and I can honestly say I have yet to see a raw presentation of how to build targeted traffic.

    Here are some of the things that people are talking about with respect to building traffic"
    1) Digg and other announcement sites. How exactly is that going to build targeted traffic to a site? In my opinion it is not, and even if the site is adsense driven, no great benefit is going to come of it.

    2) Forum sig posts. Ok this one might work if the forums you are posting in are related to your site (example- you have an adsense site dedicated to flowers and you post regularly on a flower forum) but aside from Webdev products et al and their corresponding forums, are there really alot of forums that relate to other non SEO et al sites?> Yeah you could argue there are car enthusiasts and the corresponding forums for that segment are large (but the adsense $$ are usually not) so, that being said, unless your site topic is web related or home business etc etc...Its my opinion youre wasting your time with this traffic building idea

    3) Banners, rotating etc. Ok-so your banner is in rotation with everyone else, and they are all trying to SELL something to the reader. Unless the sites in the rotation on average actually present quality information to the visitors, your site in my opinion will be brought downward with overall averages, assuming your site has quality regularly updated content. Maybe Im wrong here, but it would seem the big boys with large traffic might suffer, and the small guys would benefit best..?

    3) Search engines. This is the one that actually makes sense. Real unique traffic everyday, coming to you via a keyword(s) that are hopefully well represented on your site. Aside from improving this one (good seo, content), I dont see any real benefit from anything else.

    Calling all pro's: Am I missing something here?

    ps- one more thing- I think it is totally laughable that the new notion that having 50, 100, 500 adsense sites is a good way to achieve financial freedom/money/etc. Anyone who runs one good adsense site knows the time it takes to bring regular quality content, seo, etc., and to have 50+ would take long days, and long weeks to maintain. Yes, if someone was creative enough to have a bunch of news blogs, fed by rss that automatically posted the blog pages daily, hmmm, then you might have something since that would be semi-automated (aside from the seo part). Anyone ever thought of doing that, and is it possible?

    Brian
     
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  2. TheHoff

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    >>1) Digg and other announcement sites. How exactly is that going to build targeted traffic to a site? In my opinion it is not, and even if the site is adsense driven, no great benefit is going to come of it.

    Exactly right... unless you have a tech site that will attract return visitors.


    >>2) Forum sig posts. Its my opinion youre wasting your time with this traffic building idea

    If you post meaningful messages on other related forums, you will get some clickthrough traffic. If you're posting on other related forums anyway, you might as well put it in, but you're right, this will result in nothing more than a trickle unless you are posting on some really high traffic forums.. and most of those don't allow outgoing links.


    >>3) Banners, rotating etc. Ok-so your banner is in rotation with everyone else, and they are all trying to SELL something to the reader.

    Banners are banners are banners and the CTR rarely changes.


    >>3) Search engines. This is the one that actually makes sense. Real unique traffic everyday, coming to you via a keyword(s) that are hopefully well represented on your site. Aside from improving this one (good seo, content), I dont see any real benefit from anything else.

    Bingo.


    >>Calling all pro's: Am I missing something here?

    Yes. PPC. Buying Adwords and pushing that traffic to your site where you make more money per visitor than it costs to bring them there.


    >>ps- one more thing- I think it is totally laughable that the new notion that having 50, 100, 500 adsense sites is a good way to achieve financial freedom/money/etc. Anyone who runs one good adsense site knows the time it takes to bring regular quality content, seo, etc., and to have 50+ would take long days, and long weeks to maintain.

    When people speak of running that many Adsense sites, the content is not generated by hand.. it is usually gibberish put out by article manglers.


    >>Yes, if someone was creative enough to have a bunch of news blogs, fed by rss that automatically posted the blog pages daily, hmmm, then you might have something since that would be semi-automated (aside from the seo part). Anyone ever thought of doing that, and is it possible?

    Sure, it is one form of a scraper site and there are thousands of them. They use snippets of other people's content to attract the search engine robots and then they put ads on them hoping for relevant clicks.
     
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    Fahd Well-Known Member

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    Adwords with niche keywords works well!
     
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  4. BrianJump

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    ...looks so far like the jury is voting for adwords....


    So spend money on adwords in hopes of a higher return with adsense...

    Example- you have a adsense site selling books..so you purchase adwords keywords for books..
    Arent the adwords keywords more $$ than the adsense payouts??

    I see how you could purchase a related, lesser $$$ adwords keyword in hopes of a higher paying adsense payout, but the ratio of adwords price to adsense payout would be tough to make a significant amount of $$$, correct?
     
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    Use PPC to pull in targeted traffic for your products, not your Adsense ads....if you have products. A big problem today is so many people are trying to make their "fortune" off of Adsense. They have been caught up in the Adsense Fever. Whatever happened to selling products?

    Also, advertising in targeted ezines (newletters) is a great way to get targeted traffic....but, once again, you need products for them to buy.

    Jim
     
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    since the thread is heading more toward ppc and adsense

    how about a campaign on a less expensive search engine for better Adsense return?

    i.e. go click, you pay 2-3 cents per click for the top position. in return, your adsense pays 50 cents to $1 per click.
     
    son, Apr 27, 2006 IP
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    you have got to be seriously knowlegable to leverage adsense in that way.

    ABSOLUTELY NOT! You should not do anything online in the 'HOPE' of anything. Before you can consider buying traffic you MUST know what your conversion rates are. If you do not have solid data on conversion rates, then you are walking a tightrope with both hands behind your back and blindfolded.

    There is no easy way, you MUST research traffic, conversions etc.
     
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    As OWG and Jim said, that is a dangerous game of chance unless you are prepared with adequate data. Use affiliate programs or your own product sales to make your money back on the visitor; don't rely on them clicking on a higher priced PPC ad.
     
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    I created RSS Reader / mixer with auto metatag generator. Take a look
    http://dotbeyond.com/demo/rss/
    i think it does pretty much every thing that you need
     
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