Let's Red rep. DMOZ editors.

Since I added 8000 sites as an editor I didn't realise I had such a big family or had so many friends. There are a few editors with more than 50,000 friends and relative - gets very expensive when it comes to buying Christmas presents. Mind you, based on those numbers and bearing in mind your other theory that they are all paid for listings, there are a few editors with tens of millions in their bank account. Makes you wonder why they would continue to edit when they are that well off. Of course those assumptions of yours might be all unsubstantiated BS instead. And it might be that someone who has zero knowledge of DMOZ internally and doesn't have any logic processes to speak of is lacking in credibility. Let people make their own mind up.

 

OK. Now I understand why they are all over Internet defending the corruption. Why kill a goose that lays golden egg? It will die a natural death when Google stop using it, in the mean time corrupt editors, edit and make money.

Have you ever seen anybody in any forum that likes corrupt DMOZ editors, except other DMOZ editors? It is hard to think of any other group that is so hated.

 

Ah, but they do...

Gworld the Red Rep panzy... Do you feel better about yourself now? What a leaker.

 

Yes. I almost feel sorry for all those DMOZ editors. The abuse you guys must recieve on forums like this one must be overwhelming at times. I think I will go and find a DMOZ to green rep and write a friendly message to.





SIKE!!!

 

Latest Red :

Balls I take it ? Again, unsigned so am forced to agree.

Look Shawn is right, Dmoz needs loads more editors, simple as that. And before lot of people go into huffs about being turned down for applying to 'such and such' a category twice. Please just give me 1 tiny little chance to explain what I can see happening in my limited experiences and from reading up here.

The way most go about becoming an editor is to apply for any old category regardless of size or complexity. This isn't the best way to do it. You really do need to select somewhere that is of a reasonable size for a new editor, 20 sites or so.
I know that doesn't sound much, but behind the scenes there may be as many as 100 sites still awaiting for review for that particular category.

And no, applying as an editor to one of these categories and having a site which would fit in there or anywhere else is NOT a barrier to editorship.
The reason new editors are advised to go with small categories first, is that being approved is only the first step. You then need to learn how to write decent descriptions, how to move sites to appropriate categories, how to spot mirrors, gateway sites and a whole host of other things. Applying for a second and third categorys and onwards, even once an editor, more or less follows the same process of applying as a new editor.

The amount of 'pending' submssions at times can be really demoralising. Some of us plug away at it. Some get so burnt out at the sheer task ahead of them to try and get the submission queue down to a reasonable level, with more piling in each day, they simply time out or remove themselves.

Now webmasters, take a look for example in the Adsense forums here.
See just how many webmasters are after top paying keywords to build sites round. How many are advised to check out overture bidding tools to check out what these may be. And how many build 5 or 6 sites round these keywords.... and then submit them to Dmoz.

Affiliate sites, the same scenario. Turnkey and dropshipper shopping and dating sites. Databases of the exact same content being sold left right and center to mabye 20 or 30 people at a time (get a nice template and whack it up). I could go on. But as webmasters you must take every opportunity there is to make some money and good on you. Thats what you're in the game for after all.

However ALL of these sites will at some point be submitted to Dmoz. And most of them WILL be submitted in the most commercial, competitive categories there are. With so many people building sites (as in the example above) and all including the highest paying keywords, or in areas which are potentially most profitable areas of the net how can they not be ?

The result within Dmoz is getting extremely top heavy. With the vast majority of editor applications, yet again also being submitted to edit in these most commercial of areas ( and yes real estate is one of them).
Yet unfortunately newbie editors would probably never be allocated those categories. They are just far too big and daunting for an untested new editor and the potential for corruption is just to great to let a new editor loose in a huge commercial area. So this means a lot of disappointed people, and a lot of complaints. It's a catch 22.

On the other side there are loads and loads of neglected categories just crying out for someone to give them a bit of TLC. However, webmasters who are primarily concerned with the commercial side of things, don't tend to be interested in those. This again leads to yet further complaints of 'such and such' a category standing still for a year... Sad but true.

There are just too many applying for too few of the BIG categories, while the rest stand ignored and stagnant and that's about the size of it.

My advice ? I've said before and I'll say again. Read the guidelines thoroughly and apply for a small, non-commercial negelcted category. Use the descriptions already there as an example of how to word your 2 or 3 submissions. Be honest in affliations ( they will NOT count against you as long as you are honest ) and see what happens. If approved then slowly start working yourself up. Once you have one category under your belt apply for another, and then another. It's not that difficult to get where you want to be with a bit of work.

But you have to start small, just when you started your first website.

 

Just ignore them. You want get many clicks from visitors via DMOZ anyway and I just ran a spot check on websites that have been listed there for over a year via a Google backlink check and the DMOZ link isn't even showing up as a backlink for most of the sites I checked. More than likely Google is already way ahead of the game when it comes to DMOZ listings and they have been discounted accordingly. I'm not say that some categories don't have relevance with Google, because they do. However, the links that are showing up from DMOZ via Google are ones where a site may only have one or two backlinks in the first place. Older more established sites I've checked don't even have the DMOZ link listed, anymore.

There hasn't been a link on Googles index page to their own "directory" supplied by DMOZ for a long time now and that does speak volumes to me about how important they believe directories like this are to their overall business model.