lets define freedom

Do freedom give us the right to hurt people ??
Do strong countries only that have the right to force its point of view on other countries ?
what is the limit of freedom from your point of view ??

 

The saying even growing up in school is that freedom is "the right to do anything you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone else".

I'm not so sure I totally agree with that statement, but that's pretty much the simple way to define it.

 

What's not to agree with?

 

This is a very valid question
sadly some countries want to impose and export their brand of 'freedom' on others.

and some have even occupied other countries in order to 'free' them


"And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free."

George Bush
Sept. 2004

 

Do religious people (Muslims) have the right to force their point of view on non-Muslims?

 

of course not, "let there be no compulsion in religion - holy Qur'an" but I know that it is just another try from you to promote hate against Muslims, by changing the thread topic to be about (Muslims)

again, here is a reminder of what you should do:

 

The debate comes when we define what hurts other people. And, does hurting yourself count? Should you have a right to end your own life? Doesn't that "hurt" others who were close to you? Does emotional hurt count has hurting others? Lots of questions left to be answered in that statement, for sure.

 

I would say that emotional hurt doesn't count.

 

Agreed, plus it gets tough to define further when you look at things like for example, smokers. They're hurting themselves, but 2nd hand smoke can hurt others within a certain distance which can be unavoidable in some cases. Plus, if they're in a country with public health coverage, are their choices that result in more health conditions requiring treatment costing other tax payers more? Does that count as hurting others? Same with the choice to eat fast food and have more health problems when it costs everyone in taxes.

I realize they can offset many of those costs with extra taxes on tobacco and junk food, but defining what can hurt others isn't so black and white in all areas.

Freedom definitely means different things to different people though your general definition is a good one IMO.

 

So basically I should have the right to barge into your mothers house unwarranted, stand in her house and tell her how poor of a job she did at raising you, then walk out. Would that would be okay with you? Note that I didn't physically hurt her.

Just the fact that I barged into her house when she has no clue who I am is probably more than enough to put me in jail, and justifiably so I would say.

 

God is The Source of Justice.

Freedom is to do what you will.

The good freedom is that which is submitting for God.
The bad freedom is that which does not submit for God.

God admit those who believe in Him (i.e submit for Him, since those who know God in truth, submit for Him) into His mercy and enlighten them with peace.

But those who refuse to submit for Him, Theirs will be the curse, and theirs will be the evil abode. (52)


In this life and in the hereafter.

 

Stox means on the internet, he wouldn't dare say half the stuff he says on here in real life lol.

 

In America we can't smoke pot or keep the money we earn away from the hands of the government, therefore our freedom is restricted both economically and socially.

In both cases it is government that infringes on our freedom. We give up freedom for protection. Regarding pot use, there is no added protection; therefore it's an example of one freedom that we give up in exchange for nothing. If you want pure freedom, take government and religion out of your life.

 

I think you are trying to blur the lines here between "hurting someones feelings" and causing fear of attack. Making someone think there is someone barging in to thier house to attack them isn't the same as "hurting thier feelings".

Should you be able to tell her your opinion on something? of course.

 

Freedom is choice. Freedom is a state of mind - no, more a state of being.

Freedom is the essence of being human.

Freedom is a burden and a curse.

Freedom is responsibility.

Those that understand freedom understand there is no escape. Every action we take, every decision we make reflects our freedom.

We are free to comply, or free to rebel, free to accept, or free to reject.

With freedom comes consequences. We are not free of consequences. Understanding the essence of freedom means accepting responsibility. It is simultaneously liberating and confining.

 

Freedom is a privilege. Nothing more, noting less.

 

Yes, Mia, for you freedom is the privilege to step on others, justifying it as equal opportunity. Of course, opportunity is seldom earned, and even less often equal.

And, consequences present a chance to whine.

And responsibility is a burden for others to carry.

Get a clue man. Perhaps when you have a few more years under your belt you will begin to mature. After all, Proverbs does admonish us that, "A hoary head is a sign of wisdom."

 

No, freedom itself is a privilege. Here's a link to my post so you can read it again.
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=12628369&postcount=16

 

As I said, the privilege to step on others - nothing more, nothing less. Some arrogance knows no limits.

But, even small minds can be expanded

 

NO, Privilege.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/privilege