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Lessons learned in latest PR update

Discussion in 'Google' started by Nokia999, Feb 19, 2006.

  1. Nokia999

    Nokia999 Guest

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    #41
    :eek: Are you sure you have PR2 with some PR6 and PR7 links :eek:
    Have you checked their own new PR ? ;)
     
    Nokia999, Feb 22, 2006 IP
  2. onedollar

    onedollar SEO Consultant for Hire

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    #42
    We can do analysis, if any, only after the update is over:)
     
    onedollar, Feb 22, 2006 IP
  3. enQuira

    enQuira Peon

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    #43
    Even your theory is random! :D
    random numbers in algorithms are either used for noise or to create data when we don't have real data. They have the real data (BL's) and they don't need noise because noise is to be contented with since it gives crappier outputs.

    You probably mean they take a sample of the backlinks to lower the complexity and iterations but I doubt they lack resources especially for the public PR (4 months)
     
    enQuira, Feb 22, 2006 IP
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    tesla Notable Member

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    #44
    I haven't learned any lessons from this PR update, because I haven't seen any changes on any of my sites. This thread may be a bit premature. It is going to take at least a few more days for this to finish.
     
    tesla, Feb 22, 2006 IP
  5. Nintendo

    Nintendo ♬ King of da Wackos ♬

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    #45
    :D When they give out such great numbers, it's hard to believe that there wrong until we see it for our selves. So NOW we all have seen the light and agree that PR scripts are crummy!!! grrrr!!! I want my PR 7, yet Google droped it from PR 3 to a PR 2!! :mad:
     
    Nintendo, Feb 22, 2006 IP
  6. Nokia999

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    #46
    :) Please try to share your experiments and results of page ranks ;)
    My lesson is that most significant factor of Page Rank is itself website value.How unique it is ..... and who are linking to it higher PR website with relevancey to contents or not.
     
    Nokia999, Feb 22, 2006 IP
  7. Nokia999

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    #47
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    No we are sure PR has been updated.
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    So what lessons you have learned in this update?
     
    Nokia999, Feb 28, 2006 IP
  8. skattabrain

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    #48
    has the update stabalized yet? :p
     
    skattabrain, Feb 28, 2006 IP
  9. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #49
    I am still seeing my site revert back to the old pagerank in the toolbar.
     
    dcristo, Feb 28, 2006 IP
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    Jufcy8200 Banned

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    #50
    From my personal experience....

    4 of my websites saw no PR changes (they already had existing PR).

    My new website saw a PR increase from 0 to 3.

    We had a lot of high PR links pointing to our directory and I know ALIVE DIRECTORY did as well - and we saw no increase on our PR and alive saw a 4 I think. Not sure what you can conclude by this but something fishy occurred w/ this recent PR udpate.

    Let's try this theory out...

    The recent update had more impact on new websites rather than existing websites.

    Now who can aid to this theory? Did your exisitng websites with PR gain or lose PR? Now how about your new websites? Did they see PR gains?
     
    Jufcy8200, Feb 28, 2006 IP
  11. HansV

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    #51
    Are you guys sure this id 'just' an PR update? Mostly when a PR updates I see no changes in the serps, now they are quite unstable, see a lot of KW Im tracking going from top 10 positions to nowhere and back.
     
    HansV, Feb 28, 2006 IP
  12. Dakait

    Dakait Banned

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    #52
    I don't know...but I guess...It is more about content which leads to high PR than Links.

    I have found that the site which have very good content, no backlink with 30-40 pages got PR5 and a site with copied articles having more than 70 pages, 15 backlinks got PR3. (I am seeing PR regular, it seems to be static now)

    I guess...now a days...quality content plays an effective role in PageRank. If it is than the big famous mathematical formula for PR has taken a big change.

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    Dakait, Feb 28, 2006 IP
  13. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #53
    Pagerank calculation is all about links.

    Excerpt from the google.com website:

     
    dcristo, Mar 1, 2006 IP
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    #54
    I am sure.... PageRank is not calculated with links only. NO...

    Okay, let us use a new domain, having single page with no outgoing/incoming links and with quality content. An experiment....

    I am dead sure in six months or so it will get indexed and get some PR (PR1 - PR3) depending on quality of content and HTML design simplicity.

    In fact, I have seen it ... but don't rem where, so I can't give you a link to such page.


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    Dakait, Mar 1, 2006 IP
  15. Wiep

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    #55
    How the heck do you think a domain with no incoming links will ever get indexed?
     
    Wiep, Mar 1, 2006 IP
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    #56
    if you have so many BLs and your PR is 2, I think your site was blacklisted/deindexed at some point or you have changed thematic so some of your BLs are not counted
     
    rehash, Mar 1, 2006 IP
  17. mihaidamianov

    mihaidamianov Well-Known Member

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    #57
    Well, from what I see, I'm learning that high PR links are to get cheaper 'cause they're pretty useless.. :)

    My 2 cents opinion ;)
     
    mihaidamianov, Mar 1, 2006 IP
  18. Dakait

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    #58
    - Submission in Google
    - Google Sitemap
    - Yahoo Sitemap

    And after all Google's own capability to do it without any link or and submissions.
     
    Dakait, Mar 2, 2006 IP
  19. Advenlo

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    #59
    Agreed, toolbars are the most common reason (esp. Yahoo!)
     
    Advenlo, Mar 3, 2006 IP