Lebanese President Calls for Ending Occupation of Shibaa Farms and Kafr Shuba Hills

It is better if olmert is gone israel needs a strong leader to do this.
also there is a big financial benefits for israel if there is peace. there would be millions of people that would visit the area. a lot of money would be spent there.
in the long term an israeli arab economic union can be a very powerful block. and benefit all including israel.
as far as the EJ and new settelments i belive it has to reasons. it defuses the right wing israelis so olmert can go forward. it is also a negotiation tactic. As the support for peace these things will go away.

 

Islam has not treated Jews well throughout history. I am not going to waste time debating such an obvious historical point either.

Zionists are not all responsible for the acts of each other, as all Muslims are not responsible for the acts of all other Muslims. A point you have made on this forum.

Likewise, my comparison changing the word from Zionism to Islam is correct and makes the point very clear. You will object if someone tries to paint all of Islam with a single brush, but at the same time you try to defend the painting of Zionists with a single brush.

Whatever problems you claim to see in extreme Zionists, others see equally in radical Islamists. It is your refusal to see that neither group is pure good or pure bad that is the problem. The refusal to acknowledge any problem with Islamic groups like Hamas and their ideology, while at the same time complaining about Zionists is what makes you a hypocrite.

 

as in israeli i will tell you one thing- the land belong to us, the holy temple of the jewish is here long before we took our lands back in the last 60 years, the holy template is here for about 2000 years i think, so guess what? arabs don't know how to share, they have so many lands and all they want is more and more, the muslim religion teach them to concur, and that is what they do and want to do all the time,

after 2 years of suffering of never ending missles on Israel, we are now going to a big operation, guess what? the terrorist mixing themselves inside civinalins (their own) and make us hard time to demolish then, guess what? the civilians helping them, soon little children in Palestine are going to die and the arabs will use this as propaganda of us killing little children, the true is that we are suffering now over 2 years Every day missles on us and we have no other way, when we want to bomb a place they are making the bombs,guess what? they are making it inside a building (and the neighbors don't know ha??) leaving us no other option but to bomb that building,

they use dirty tactics, they do not know how to share, if they were, we would have share with them the land.

 

why don't you show me what to say to josh in the nest post.

 

Another one who think he has a legitamate claim to land because some people of the same race lived there 2000 years ago, sorry but you are a lunatic. If you said this in a court of law the judge would laugh in your face.

 

you used to live in egypt before that you made the pyramid why don't you want to live there

 

its not correct,i didn't said that, i said if they knew how to share we would have share the land,period. and that's a strong line to say.

they do not know how to share, ask any muslim, he will tell you his religion teach him to concur,
also, Jacob did go to Egypt from Israel (Jacob name is Israel also, given by god, israel means direct to god, with no intermediaries), he was forced to do so becouase there was dry land in Israel, than he meet Joseph in Egypt and parho decided to take all the jewish and make them slaves

it doesn't matter, the line as been said- i would forgive everything and share with them the land if they would do it also for me,from love to human and earth, but they just don't understand.

 

oh another thing, why do i say they don't know how to share? look how many lands they have?, while Israel land is so small, and it is our only home, so if you do an action of love and you have so many lands- just give it to us, as you have many, but the world is full of interest, the point should be clear, you can't eat all the cake, you should share, we cannot give the Golan to Syria as the Golan is the major place in all Israel that protect us from war, it is mountioans region, that we can defend our selfs from them, and in this times, i do not believe in peace, i believe they will slut us if we will give them the Golan.

 

my mistake. i agree that the land has to be shared and they should act as family . your voice is welcome in this regard and i am very glad to hear it.

 

I think the problem here is that the extremists on both sides wont let go of their ideology for the sake of peace. In all fairness Josh your people do have a long history in the holylands which i respect, but in your analogy you should be supporting the right of native americans to get back all of america from us now. see my point.

Ok now for my other point. People on the other side must also realize that the demographics in isreal have changed in the last 60 years. Isreal is here to stay and maybe there needs to be shift in the middle eastern mentality to cause a compromise to be reach that is fair to all sides except for the extremists on both sides.

Peace has never been easy, but its always been worth it.

 

you are going to give golan back. your govt is going in that direction.
there should be a big disney land made there providing. security peace and tourisms.
sounds a little off but it might work if you think about it.
when there is peace then you can go to the rest of the countries.and peace is proven to work look at jordan and egypt.

 

If i walked into my neighbours house and claimed half the land, and he says NO! I will say to him, you need to learn how to share!

This is basically what you are saying, josh.

 

I hope you are not confusing "long history" with "old history"

which most in the West confuse, their history in the holy lands was 70 years long

"Only once, during the empire of David and Solomon, did the Jews ever control nearly-but not all-the land which is today Palestine. This empire lasted only 70 years, ending in 926 BC. Only 250 years later the Kingdom of Judah had shrunk to a small province around Jerusalem, barely a quarter of modern Palestine."

the Arabs position regarding the occupation of Palestine in 1948, and the illegal immigration before that, been addressed many times, and all zionist propaganda been refuted, why Arabs do not share? you can read it in King Abdullah I letter in 1947,

As Arabs sees the Jews

Besides, Arabs accepted to share in 1991 which was a huge mistake, Zionists share idea means transfer, which is cleansing, they do not want to live with the Palestinians, they want to live on the Palestinian lands, and Palestinians alone should deal with the result no matter how much bad it is.

 

your posts propagandize the reader, and they are proofless, I hope and I think readers are aware that if somebody has 2,562 posts (which most of them are pure crap) and many red and yellow tiny squares under his posts number, does not necessarily mean that this person is reliable, specially when he says "such an obvious historical point" when he knows nothing about the history he is talking about as if he lived it.

such an obvious historical point as you describe it, been mentioned by the Jewish people themsevles:

they even been members in the Government:

have their own traditions and culture:

I wonder If the Sultan lived till 1948 and saw those who welcomed and protected, and warned who try to expel them - expelling his own people, what would he think?

so, correct your historical facts, before you start bluhluhing here is the source so you can educate yourself a little in the field of obvious history

A History of the Jewish People - you can find it on amazon, its Jewish book not antisemitic.

 

Are you talking about Gaza ? If yes , You have blockaded Gaza , they have big problems with fuel, medicine. It is the siege. Gaza is a open air prison. It is the war crime, against any humane rights. And now you are ( israel zionist regime) going to invade Gaza. You telling it like you are going to do a great job.

Hell yes kill all civillians, shoot on civil protestors who support Hamas.. And kill kids too , as israel doing it since years

 

Yes, Jews have been successful in spite of living under Islamic rule - that hardly excuses the injustices they have suffered at the hands of Islam.

I see little point in replying to these types of posts. You have no better understanding of how Jews have been treated in Muslims lands throughout history than anyone else. You chose to read a passage saying how great infidels were treated and see that as a positive. I read the fact that Islamic nations treat anyone as an infidel as disgusting and discriminatory. Also, you leave out any of the well documented acts committed under Islam against Jews.

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7451691.stm

This is why there is no peace, they are animals.

 

No doubt there are people doing bad things. It seems you want to try put this on everyone, not on the 4 guys in the video. Unlike you, I can condemn this type of behavior regardless of who perpetrates it - and I do explicitly condemn the actions on that video. Unlike you, I don't think one side is always right.

Shall I hold my breath for the day you condemn Muslim violence? You can start with the 50 rockets that Hamas admitted they fired at Israeli civilians today or you can just wait for the next suicide bombing and make your excuse then.

By the way, who is the "they" in your post who you refer to as animals. You don't think there is no peace because of 4 idiots do you? You are clearly referring to some bigger group as animals. What group is that? Settlers? Zionists? Jews? Israelis?

If these guys are animals, what do you call these Palestinians?

 

I wonder why Jewish people did not have the same success under Byzantium rule?

from the same book:

as usual, another empty post by you which is not supported by any proof or any of these documents you mentioned.

 

Please, do not insult animals!