leave Islam bus ads in NY

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  1. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    Babak, this isn't completely on topic of your thread. Still, I wanted to add some pics of religious related ads on buses...:)

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    I see both religions are on a path of promotion
     
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    thanks Rebecca for photos, yeah you are right but guess you can't done it for Muslims! Islam isn't religion by choise that you ask such things from a Muslim.
     
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    You're welcome. :)

    The ad isn't telling them to leave Islam, notice the question mark -- It says, "Leaving Islam?" It's for Muslims that already want to leave Islam, but are concerned they will be victimized with violence for doing so. There are Muslims that believe apostasy should be punished by death, and this is offering resources to protect them.

    The sign isn't saying this, but what if it did say "Leave Islam"

    I wouldn't like that sign personally, but it's not because I believe Muslims have some special privilege to not be offended. I wouldn't necessarily care for signs demanding atheists leave atheism either. We have the freedom of religion, or lack of, and it should always be by individual choice. Islam is no exception.
     
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    seems you are right but anyway I guess need not such ads. as you said leaving Islam has so danger for Muslim.
    we have a lot of Muslims who Islam is religon of peace and a lot that aren't familiar with Islam at all that just know they are Muslim and some who knows Islam but unbeliever. these groups that are majority of Muslims are harmless and beside why thay should change their religion when could encountry with some danger.

    for other parts who are believer such ads bring hatred I think.
     
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    That's the point, Muslims should not "encounter danger" by changing religions, they should have the freedom to choose without fear.
     
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    after Mohammad dead, many Muslims denied Islam and beck to their previous religion so it became law to kill such denier.
     
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    its a free country you can choose any God you want to worship.
     
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    they don't want to stay in USA for ever without seeing their mother land. beside they can live easily without ads/show obviously their belief.
     
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    Any reference to this? when you are quoting something like this please state the fact with true reference not from those who have created such transcripts against Muslims! Get it?
     
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    you are right but I haven't any English Source yet but try to find. I read it from two history book of Islam, Alkamel fe Tarikh by Ebn_Asir and Tarikh Tabari by Jarir Tabari both in Persian language. you can find it in Sharieh law either.
     
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    I Google it and find this source. hope it was useful.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

    tried to find those two books I mentioned in my last post but couldn't find them in English. maybe I didn't wrote the right words.
     
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    Babak, freedom of religion is a fundamental human right. I still don't see the bus ads as the problem. What I feel is the problem, is that certain individuals feel it's appropriate to threaten violence over apostasy. I'm not sure bus ads are the best way to communicate this, but at least they have initiated an interesting dialogue. In Iran, it's unconscionable that they've criminalized apostasy. To choose any religion or lack of, should come from an individuals personal convictions, not decided upon by family or government.
     
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    Anyone who is interested in escaping from Islam should consider contacting the Apostates of Islam or Faith Freedom. If you are in Great Britain, you can also contact The Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain.

    No one needs to live like a dog, hunted and afraid that their family and neighbors might discover what they are silently thinking.
     
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    I told you about Sharia law concern to that and in most of Muslim countries has law to punish apostate.
    guess it is not just for Islamic countries and Muslim. in many places in the world people can't obviously talk about their faith and believes when it was disapprove in that community, I think. even in USA many people care to announce their mentality especially in Jesus belt. I guess at least it could deprive you to get progress and better opportunity. no one of American authority dare to tell they are atheist or gay I think.
     
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    Here in egypt, If a christian girl tries to convert to Islam or marrying a Muslim , Most times she gets killed in a " mysterious " way.
    This incident has Occurred many times.
     
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    There are quite a few lesbian and gay individuals in the Obama administration. Here's a listing, but there are probably even more. Just don't forward this list to Ahmadinejad! LOL. An example of an atheist in politics would be U.S. House of Representatives Pete Stark.

    That's sad.
     
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    It's apparently a fabrication made up to cover the shame of Islam.

    http://www.google.com/search?q=christian+murdered+egypt shows only Christians being murdered by Muslims.
     
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    I have heard such stories like these from my Egyptian sisters. This has been going on for awhile.
     
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