LDS Church Member "Mitt Romney" Running for President

Mount Everest?

 

Seen photos of the summits? They are heavily littered with empty O2 bottles and garbage (not calling the unrecovered bodies garbage). Nothing left of that mountain where a human could spend more than 5 mins that doesn't seem very littered. Even if you went there, what view? The top of the mountain is often shrouded in clouds.

We've (very bias'd ) better cared for and looking mountains.

tom

 

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That is correct. See? We're everywhere ^_^ ... I think he has a chance.

 

Anyone ever see the Movie "Orgamso"? Wasn't the premis that the guy was a mormon pornstar working to pay for his wedding in the big church?

 

I've never seen it, (I'll Google it real quick), but what do you mean by "big church"? You mean a temple?

As for the Google results, I'm not getting anything showing it was a movie...

 

Yo-Yo, I have defended you on this forum, because I feel you have been unfairly maligned. But here, you are off the map of tolerance, the very crime you accuse others of.


I'm an atheist, and will die, when I do, content (I hope) that I have lived my life well - that I loved my family, treated friends and enemies alike with compassion and respect. So the below has nothing to do with any religious belief.

My family contains many mormons. I have known many more mormons, by their companionship. Generally, I find them to be solid, conscientous people, who care about the community where they live and place love of family at the top of their moral creed. They are "tight," to be sure, but then, I'm not sure my worldviews are the lock on wisdom. Your aspersions betray an ignorance and a wantonness with the facts that are wholly undeserved. Mormonism has its share of nutjobs, but then, in my book, no religion is absent this. One of my problems with religion generally.

Mormons believe in raising kids with love, strength, responsibility. I don't find that worthy of opprobrium. I'd advise you to ask yourself if you really wish to call people, such as my beloved oldest brother, a child molester, without knowing a damn thing about what you are talking about.

Whenever I find myself saying "THOSE people...." (fill in the ellipsis), I tend to sniff my own idiocy, rather than the universal truth that only I had the genius to discover. "Those" people don't exist.

 

Perhaps I could have written it better, not all mormons are the same, you're right. However the word "mormons" is a summary of the branches of mormanism (LDS, FLDS, etc)... and everything I said is true to some (not all) mormons.

My father's side of the family contains a large amount of mormons. Some of the "original" mormons in Missouri. And every one of them was completely nuts.

I think you'll find by reading my posts, I treat all organised religions equally , I don't respect a single one. That doesn't mean I don't respect any of the people... there are many good people from every religion.

Some mormons do, others believe in marrying their daughters and hating their sons.

 

I would venture that everything said about anything is true to some of everything. I don't understand the point.

My high school cheerleading squadmembers were totally hot. And they all chewed gum. Now, I know, everyone who chews gum is hot. Or something like that. Oh - and a little something about an order of extermination, 1838, may help explain a certain testiness.

OK, fair enough. I don't have the lock on it that you do, but I respect your point of view.

Some muslims believe I am Satan himself. And that I should die for it. Some young, leftist "types" presume I am a member of the John Birch society - until they get to know me, when they discover I am just a guy who generally hates dogma, as handed down from someone on high - whichever side of the political spectrum it hails from. Many from the right presume I hate America if I challenge some of its current direction. Again, I ask - the point?

I don't think you serve your call for deep and unpredjudiced thinking if by the actions of a few you condemn an entire people to being "nutjobs," or worse.

I see no difference between this and the hatred I see for muslims, or any other "type" of person, on this forum. It is just as ridiculous.

 

It isn't just the polygamy. The entire story of joseph smith is completely wacked, and if what compuxp is saying "that god told them to stop polygamy when it was outlawed"... then that's just as looney.

Just like the looney JW's who think 144,000 people are all that get into heaven.. and the looney christians who think the entire world flooded and 2 of every species just jumped on a big boat... sorry, but believing in this kinds of fairy tales as facts and reality = nutjob.

The difference is i'm not trying to call them all terrorists and condemn all of them to death. I did however make a sweeping generalization (which was a mistake)...

 

Well thats fine yo-yo if you dont agree with the LDS (Mormon theology) But apparently about 14 million worldwide do. So you can take it or leave it. And that is how many LDS (Mormons) feel. If you dont agree with it and move on. We do not force anything on you.

As far as Polygamy is - it is over and gone within the mainstream churhc. Only the FLDS church practices such a thing. And if you want to discuss religion and how they change for politics we can discuss the Muslisms, Pentacosals, Catholics, Baptists, Episcopalian(letting gay Bishops and woman hold the priesthood) and so on. You give me one religion that has not faultered under governmental rule.

Look at the Middle east situation, Britain and Ireland these things are continually happening with religion and government. One should not just brand a certain religion wacko just because of what happened years to centuries ago.

As far as the LDS(Mormons) go. It is very hard to throw a stone at them comparing other religions against them - let alone your own opinion. It is just your opinion and that is fine. But this thread was about Romney running for President of th US and you want to bring in Polgamy and his religion. Why? Are you afraid he will make this government similiar to Muslim run countries. If you read a previous post from me - you can see that the Mormons have not changed anything in the US government to make you convert.

 

WOW. Kudos to you for that

When it comes to God, anything is possible.

 

I just got to wonder about your experiences for you to make a statement like that.
Something you were taught or do you have experiences to back them up?

 

Looks like Mit is in trouble already

Mass. Gov. Romney Apologizes for Remark

 

That's not good at all. It only takes one slip. And that's a pretty nasty one. I haven't heard that term since I was a kid. Back then, it only meant one thing and it wasn't good.

 

sorry.. i dont want somebody so religious that they talk about it all the damn time while their in office... GW talks about religion enough.. and you know what i dont care!!! Our president should be a damn genius, a workaholic, and so cool and likeable that its easy for him to work out a lot of peace accords.

Whoever the pres is regardless of religion, i dont want to think i have chance of beating him in a chess game..

 

Apparently he wasnt the only one that has used the reference. And the reference was not used or aimed at a particular race it was used to refer to a work situation he was in.

One needs to qoute or read the entire story to know what fully happened instead of just giving or luring people the idea he was making a discrimnatory remake to a race.

If an text is misleading or taking out of content - this is how offenses and arguements come into play.

"In a speech Saturday, Romney, a Republican considering a run for president in 2008, acknowledged he took a big political risk in taking control of the project after a fatal tunnel ceiling collapse, but said inaction would have been even worse."

"Romney's spokesman, Eric Fehrnstrom, said the governor was describing "a sticky situation."

"He was unaware that some people find the term objectionable and he's sorry if anyone's offended," Fehrnstrom said.

White House spokesman Tony Snow sparked similar criticism in May when he used the term in response to a question about government surveillance."

 

Its a lot worse then niggardly which is a legitimate word politicians have gotten heat over ene though it is completely unrelated to the racial slur it sounds like

Although it seems Tony Snow has also used it recently

Thats why I said in reference to the Big Dig and linked to the original story. I don't believe that neither he nor his speech writer didn't know it could also have a racist meaning. Im a Northerner and even I have heard of it

 

He might as well just give up now

 

I didnt see any reference to it.

And again you giving the illusion he used the remark to a particular race trying to incite an arguement

"Its a lot worse then niggardly which is a legitimate word politicians have gotten heat over ene though it is completely unrelated to the racial slur it sounds like"