Largest Swiss Newspaper Asks if Bush Was Behind 9/11-BLICK newspaper

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    2,973 humans died with the attacks of 9/11. "Bin Laden" and "Al Qaeda", the Bush clan cried. The world believed themm. In the meantime even scientists doubt the Bush version. Now, Swiss university professors Albert A. Stahel and Daniele Ganser raise new questions.

    "Something is not correct", says strategy expert Stahel in "World Week", and here he refers to the "incomplete" official US Government 9/11 Report of 2004.

    The university professor confirms his criticism in BLICK: "Osama Bin Laden cannot be 'the large godfather' behind the attacks. He did not have enough means of communication".

    Dr. Stahel doubts that a passenger airliner crashed into the Pentagon: "For trainee pilots it is actually impossible to crash into the building so exactly. Seven hours after the Twin Towers collapsed, the World Trade Center Building 7 next to it also collapsed. The official version: It burned for a long time. Nothing at all is clear."

    Raising questions along with Stahel is historian Dr. Daniele Ganser, his colleague at the University of Zurich. Dr. Ganser also calls the official US version "a conspiracy theory".

    "There are three theories, which we should treat equally":

    1. "Surprise theory" - Bin Laden and Al Qaeda implemented the attacks.

    2. "Let it happen on purpose" - The US Government knew the Al Qaeda plans and did not react in order to legitimize a series of wars.

    3. "Made it happen on purpose" - The attacks were actually planned and orchestrated by the Pentagon and/or US secret services.

    Ganser: "3,000 humans were sacrificed for strategic interests. The more we research, the more we doubt the Bush version. It is conceivable that the Bush government was responsible. Bush has lied so much already! And we already know that the US government planned an operation in 1962 [Operation Northwood] that was approved by the Pentagon that would have sacrificed innocent US citizens for the government's own interests."

    As for Ganser and Stahel: "We only ask questions."

    http://waronyou.com/forums/index.php?topic=200.msg468;topicseen#new

    No evidence that Muslims hijacked planes on 9/11. Absent such evidence for over years, the official account must be a lie .
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    From your post, it is certainly some questions had been asked but not by th largest Swiss Newspapers. They were just quoting the theories of two professors. I would say that it is a very fast and quick way to get famous.
     
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    Image a media outlet continuing to push the same dragged out issue again and again. I did not see that coming.
     
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    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Well they can run out of controversial news once in a while......

     
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    I think that they even ran it, is a sign of how much America's international credibility has been downgraded due to Iraq and other shenanigans.

    When we went into Iraq, even with the Downing Street Memo and other tricks, it was possible to build a coalition.

    If we were to go into Iran, I don't think there would be very many, if any countries which would stand by our side.

    Despite going to war numerous times, and policing the world, providing a tremendous amount of aid, much of the goodwill from those sacrifices in blood and treasure has been squandered.
     
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    I cannot wait for the end of the Iraq War. I imagine how the world will view us when we are out of there. Will they still hate us? I think that will be interesting
     
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    i don't think the world hate US most people are just disappointed
     
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    Yeap I would say quite disappointed especially with all the lies about WMD, but at least for me I don't view that as hate.


     
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    Well a large part of the world thought there were WMD's. At least a large collection of different intelligence agencies. I do not think we should of been at war for that reason alone and the admin failed in pushing more then one or two justifications. Because of that most of the world only thinks wmds when they hear iraq.
     
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    Yet much of the intelligence we used to justify the war was in fact disputed by 'a large collection of different intelligence agencies' including our own ;)
     
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    Man who blew the whistle on Gladio tells Italy's largest newspaper attacks were run by CIA, Mossad

    Former Italian President and the man who revealed the existence of Operation Gladio Francesco Cossiga has gone public on 9/11, telling Italy’s most respected newspaper that the attacks were run by the CIA and Mossad and that this was common knowledge amongst global intelligence agencies.

    Cossiga was elected President of Italian Senate in July 1983 before being winning a landslide 1985 election to become President of the country in 1985.

    Cossiga gained respect from opposition parties as one of a rare breed – an honest politician – and led the country for seven years until April 1992.
     
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    That's what I have been saying for some time Thraxed. Internationally, the 9/11 truth movement is growing really fast. There is going to be increasing pressure to have a real investigation, a non-partisan (not bi-partisan) one, with expert testimony and broad legal authority.
     
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    Honestly speaking I don't think that would ever happen, a bi-partisan is the best they are willing to go.

     
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    America went into Iraq, becuase Saddam was going to try and stop Israel's murderings of Palestinians.

    yeahs Saddam and Israel were gonna go to war, but again, America does Israels dirty work. You probably never thought of this becuase your media is run by Israeli lobbyist
     
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    Sorry but I don't buy this as a reason...........
    What do you base this off of?
     
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    Sorry but I don't buy this as a reason...........
    What do you base this off of?
     
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    I suspect that the only outcome that would satisfy many people is if Bush was declared guilty. The real truth doesn't matter to some.

    We had a bi-partisan commission investigate 9/11 and it was half loaded with bloodthirsty Bush-haters who didn't find any credible evidence to support Alex Jones' weak fantasies.

    As for WMDs, Russian intelligence said Saddam had WMDs, the French said he had them and the Germans said he had them. They knew he had them because the USA and the French, Germans and Russians sold them to him. Just because we didn't find them because they were moved out of the country or buried the desert doesn't prove that the WMD stories were lies. Perhaps they were lies, but lack of evidence doesn't prove anything.

    Some of you guys are doing a real good job at re-writing the facts and supporting all of the USA-haters out there. I don't think anyone will ever find any credible evidence that the US government was behind 9/11 unless someone fabricates the evidence. I don't think it is possible to keep a lid on something that big. If the Bush adminstration was behind it, someone would have defected by now and told their version of the story.

    I can understand a lot of the people who hate Bush, but blame him for the things he has legitimately screwed up and not for the things he is being accused of by the abundance of wackos in the world. Fabricating a theory about how the USA or Isreal was behind 9/11 looks like a sure path to fame and fortune these days. The problem is that none of the stories hold up to scrutiny.

    Remember that Bush will be gone in a few months and none of the front-runners who want to replace him are good choices for America or the world.
     
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    Yeah all the other intelligence agencies believed in yellow cake and aluminum tubes for starters? Hey?

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    There is a huge difference from believing he has some, to the amount we were expected to believe. Especially when our very own intelligence agencies disputed what the admin stated.

    Talk about rewriting history.
     
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    Then those are the wrong people to have involved.

    Both the Republican and Democrat leaders of the commission now say that they believe the investigation was stonewalled.

    It's not about George Bush. It's about getting an accurate recount of what occurred, that is scientifically consistent with the facts. Not having a proper investigation is a security issue.

    I agree with your last sentence. However, the lack of evidence doesn't support that they exist either.

    You should read about the Downing Street Memo I linked up thread.

    Don't take this personally, but yelling "BDS!" is the new "antisemite" on these forums. Some folks are Bush deranged, but I wouldn't put WT, GRIM or myself in that category.

    You bet brother. More of the same.
     
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    not every one thought about iraq capabilities and wmd like that take a look at this its only a few seconds

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=UJQX4m5tcgY&feature=related
     
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