Kyrgyzstan violence sees Muslims killing Muslims: Muslim nations not providing aid

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by earlpearl, Jun 16, 2010.

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    Once again in recent times we see an outbreak of violence with Muslims killing Muslims. Kyrgyzstan is seeing widespread ethnic violence with ethnic Muslims slaughtering other ethnic Muslims. 80,000 have already fled the borders. There is no control. The nation and leaders have requested outside aid.

    So far Russia, the US, the Europeans, and the UN have supplied and offered aid. Can't say that a single Islamic nation is willing to offer help in any way whatsoever.

    Islamic fundamentalists use their religeous claims to defend their massive killings. They kill other Muslims, they kill non-Muslims, they kill whoever they feel like it, always using their religion to defend these murders.

    Of course when some other Muslims kill other Muslims they couldn't give a r@ts @ss. The fundamentalists don't care, the nations under Islamic rule don't care. None of them cares at all about the slaughter.

    It appears that the innocents will once again have to be saved by non-Muslims. Such is the way of the world
     
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  2. DevilHellz

    DevilHellz Well-Known Member

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    I'd have to agree with ya, earl.
    muslim country to offer aid? Hah. It would be interesting to see when that will happen :D
     
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    You don't even hear them complaining about it or protesting it. They could be slaughtered like cattle. So long as it is Muslims doing the killing, its all good in the hood.
     
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    one thing i have realized that being a minority sucks , no matter were on earth you are being a minority of any type( race,religion) you are bound to face oppression
     
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    It has nothing to do with religion as far as I know.

    It is ethnic conflict, and I wonder why it appeared just after the new government of Kyrgyzstan took place?

    May God destroy the igniters of such conflict.

    BTW, how do you expect muslims to help Uzbek minority while the hypocrit government of Uzbekistan is against muslims and their supporters?

    Had the government of Uzbekistan been group of human beings, muslim Uzbek wouldn't need to go out of their country.
     
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  6. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    Polite Teen: Maybe you are confused. The killing is going on in Kyrgyzstan not Uzbekistan. Now that you are aware of that, and that you called on God to destroy the igniters of such conflict, and now that I straightened it out for you, now you might want to send some Muslim money to other Muslims who need help.

    Or maybe like the Muslim fundamentalists, and the Muslim nations you don't care. Consequently the US, the European nations and Russia are providing aid for those Muslims who are being killed by other Muslims.
     
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    I know it is in Kyrgyzstan.
    It was clear in my post when I said: "I wonder why it appeared just after the new government of Kyrgyzstan took place?"
     
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    What was the reason of such killing?
     
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    it isn't first time Muslims killed each other and won't be last time.
    yeah it isn't an Islamic fight or Jihad but anyway two groups are Muslims, just two question came to my mind!
    why no any reaction by Muslim clerics when Muslims kill each other? and another why Islam hasn't such influence in Muslims to stop such blood sheds?
     
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    Exactly when the Gaza flotilla event took place, about 90 Ahmadi Muslims were murdered in Lahore, Pakistan. They were murdered by a group of Muslim fanatics armed with hand grenades, machine guns, etc', while praying inside their mosque (in clear violation of the quran), simply for not being "Muslim Enough".
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/south_asia/10190389.stm
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmadiyya
    90 peaceful Muslims murdered during prayer --->> Google search for: +Ahmadi +lahore +attack gives 600k search results (Including many previous attacks!!)
    9 self-proclaimed martyr wannabe terrorists killed in self-defense ----->> Google search for: +gaza +flotilla gives 24000k , or at least 40 times more.
    No Muslim (or western) country called for an "international committee to investigate". No "testimonies" in the headlines worldwide. In fact: nobody give a fuck. Despite the clear differences between the events, most of you didn't even hear about one event, and everybody heard of the other.
    This is the face of the world media and the best demonstration how people that "care" for "human rights" care about it only in very specific cases... or maybe actually as pretext and excuse for something else? just maybe....
     
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  12. Polite teen

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    Maybe because the humanitirain aid was international noble work, but the nazis fought it and killed innocent jews.

    I agree with you that the world is condemning the Holocaust more than anything else.
     
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    This is not related to Muslim killing Muslims. You can find Hindus killing Hindus, Christians killing Christians and so on. And FYI the killing in Kyrgyzstan is not religious it is racist!
     
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    Thank you once again, polite teen, for your honesty. The killing of 9 people trying to open up arms traffic to a terrorist organization is complained about so heavily because the Jews were involved.

    Bullshit. Find me 90 dead people murdered anywhere in the world by someone other than Muslims for religious reasons in the same week. Hell, same month?
     
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    Just in case my point was not proven above beyond any reasonable doubt, here's more: http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...lotilla-film-spurs-israeli-complaint-1.296861
     
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    The volume of Hindus killing Hindus, Christians killing Christians, Jews killing Jews, is so minute and inconsequential comparted to the volume of Muslims killing Muslims that it doesn't warrent consideration.

    Moreover the killing Muslim fundamentalists invoke religion all the time. They bring it into the picture. They proclaim it, use it for explanation and loudly proclaim it to try and gain some level of Muslim against the rest of the world unanimity. Meanwhile, of all the killing they do its mostly Muslim against Muslim.

    Meanwhile I see Pakistan is evacuating its own citizens/students from Krygyzstan for their own protection. While sending a large plane to evacuate their own people they are bringing some supplies. Damn generous of them. Tajikstan is supplying a little aid while blocking fleeing Uzbeks from crossing their border. Not all that supportive are they. And the Turkish Red Crescent is supplying a bit of aid. Doesn't appear as if the wealthy oil rich Muslim lands are lifting a finger to help a dying murdered Muslim.

    It appears that the Russians, the Americans and the Eurpopeans are sending most of the aid and assistance to try and quell this Muslim killing Muslim phenomena.
     
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    If you are talking about Saudi Arabia, kuwait, Jordan, Egypt etc etc they really damn care about any killings or disasters. And as I said before these killings are not religious they are racists. When you look at all these killing there is a bigger game behind every story!

    I'll tell you about Pakistan usually terrorists/agencies like RA and others do a bomb blast when "Shia" are out for religious ritual, it will create hate towards "Sunni" muslims. After sometime terrorists/Agencies do a bomb blast in "Sunni" Mosque to create hate against others.

    How they get succeeded? well you can pay them damn good to do this and there are religious fanatics which are brainwashed that if you kill these people you'll go to Jannah. What can you expect from countries those are not rich, not developed, not educated. They get easily brainwashed to kill other Muslims.

    Furthermore, Israeli have killed more than 8000 Palestinians so far and in Kashmir India have killed more than 8000 Kashmiri's so far. After the Iraq war Americans killed so many Iraqi's and same in Afghanistan. In India Hindus have killed thousands of people in Gujrat. The point is man will never stop killings! and if you ask about Muslims, then religious fanatics are everywhere!!!
     
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    You whole post was so good up to this point. Muslims in Pakistan do kill each other. There are lots of brainwashed religious fanatics. To compare that to the actions of the Indian, Israeli, US, or even the Pakistani government is absurd. US and Israeli soldiers are disciplined. When they take a life and engage using deadly force, they are following a set of rules of engagement laid out by their government, in compliance with international laws. Failure to follow rules of engagement is grounds for disciplinary action.

    The Muslim extremists who brainwash people into killing civilians for their religion have no interest in any law or human rights whatsoever. Their goals are to make the places they live ungovernable (especially in Pakistan), create fear amongst the civilians, which translates into control, and spread their hateful ideology by means of the Islamic religion. I suspect you don't disagree with me about the motives driving these people, so how is it you can find any credibility in comparing women and children killed by a suicide bomber in a church by a mad man to armed combatants shot dead in an armed conflict with Israeli troops? It simply isn't credible.

    I feel bad for your government because these madmen make up a sizable enough portion of your population to make dismissing their ideology of hate politically difficult. I imagine speaking out against them is often equated to speaking out against Islam and the majority of the religious people with little or no education buy into that 100%. It makes the kind of blind hate you are describing extremely contagious. Its how a government winds up as a military dictatorship just to keep the lunatics in their cages. The only real hope you have is getting Islam out of your governance.
     
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    It is not getting Islam out of Governance, it should not be like brainwashing and emotional playing. They drive them whenever needed and if you talk about Pakistan Corruption is much biggest threat as there is no Islamic Governance here.

    I don't hear anything about Malaysia, UAE etc because they have good rule of Governance, education, economical stability and they are not using people for any motives.
     
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  20. ChaosTrivia

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    *aHem*
    So I guess that when 80% or so of the population are foreigners who work in harsh conditions of slavery to filthy rich employers, that can't be defined as "using people"....
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rights_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates#Migrant_and_labor_rights
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/johann-hari/the-dark-side-of-dubai-1664368.html
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkHK48oPAoM
    more on the web....

    Maybe this will help you hear better.
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    ChaosTrivia, Jun 18, 2010 IP