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Kyoto is pointless, say 60 leading scientists

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by latehorn, May 16, 2006.

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    4 Apr 2006 - In an open letter to Canada 's new Conservative prime minister,
    Stephen Harper, more than 60 leading international climate change experts have
    asked him to review the global warming policies he inherited from his center-left

    "Much of the billions of dollars earmarked for implementation of the protocol in
    Canada will be squandered without a proper assessment of recent developments in
    climate science," they wrote in the Canadian Financial Post last week.

    There is no consensus among climate scientists on the relative importance of the
    various causes of global climate change, they wrote. Study of global climate
    change is an "emerging science."

    "'Climate change is real' is a meaningless phrase used repeatedly by activists to
    convince the public that a climate catastrophe is looming and humanity is the cause.
    Neither of these fears is justified.

    "Global climate changes all the time due to natural causes and the human impact
    still remains impossible to distinguish from this natural 'noise'."

    The list of brave signatories (below) looks like a list of “Who’s Who” of the
    world’s scientists.

    Dr. Ian D. Clark, professor, isotope hydrogeology and paleoclimatology,
    Dept. of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

    Dr. Tad Murty, former senior research scientist, Dept. of Fisheries and Oceans,
    former director of Australia's National Tidal Facility and professor of earth
    sciences, Flinders University, Adelaide; currently adjunct professor,
    Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa

    Dr. R. Timothy Patterson, professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences (paleoclimatology),
    Carleton University , Ottawa

    Dr. Fred Michel, director, Institute of Environmental Science and associate
    professor, Dept. of Earth Sciences, Carleton University , Ottawa

    Dr. Madhav Khandekar, former research scientist, Environment Canada.
    Member of editorial board of Climate Research and Natural Hazards

    Dr. Paul Copper, FRSC, professor emeritus, Dept. of Earth Sciences,
    Laurentian University, Sudbury, Ont.

    Dr. Ross McKitrick, associate professor, Dept. of Economics, University of Guelph , Ont.

    Dr. Tim Ball, former professor of climatology, University of Winnipeg ; environmental consultant

    Dr. Andreas Prokoph, adjunct professor of earth sciences, University of Ottawa ;
    consultant in statistics and geology

    Mr. David Nowell, M.Sc. (Meteorology), fellow of the Royal Meteorological
    Society, Canadian member and past chairman of the NATO Meteorological
    Group, Ottawa

    Dr. Christopher Essex, professor of applied mathematics and associate director of
    the Program in Theoretical Physics, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.

    Dr. Gordon E. Swaters, professor of applied mathematics, Dept. of Mathematical
    Sciences, and member, Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Research Group, University
    of Alberta

    Dr. L. Graham Smith, associate professor, Dept. of Geography, University of Western Ontario, London, Ont.

    Dr. G. Cornelis van Kooten, professor and Canada Research Chair in
    environmental studies and climate change, Dept. of Economics, University
    of Victoria

    Dr. Petr Chylek, adjunct professor, Dept. of Physics and Atmospheric Science, Dalhousie University , Halifax

    Dr./Cdr. M. R. Morgan, FRMS, climate consultant, former meteorology advisor
    to the World Meteorological Organization. Previously research scientist in
    climatology at University of Exeter , U.K.

    Dr. Keith D. Hage, climate consultant and professor emeritus of Meteorology, University of Alberta

    Dr. David E. Wojick, P.Eng., energy consultant, Star Tannery, Va. , and Sioux
    Lookout, Ont.

    Rob Scagel, M.Sc., forest microclimate specialist, principal consultant,
    Pacific Phytometric Consultants, Surrey , B.C.

    Dr. Douglas Leahey, meteorologist and air-quality consultant, Calgary

    Paavo Siitam, M.Sc., agronomist, chemist, Cobourg, Ont.

    Dr. Chris de Freitas, climate scientist, associate professor, The University of Auckland, N.Z.

    Dr. Richard S. Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan professor of meteorology, Dept. of Earth,
    Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology

    Dr. Freeman J. Dyson, emeritus professor of physics, Institute for Advanced Studies, Princeton , N.J.

    Mr. George Taylor, Dept. of Meteorology , Oregon State University; Oregon
    State climatologist; past president, American Association of State Climatologists

    Dr. Ian Plimer, professor of geology, School of Earth and Environmental Sciences,
    University of Adelaide; emeritus professor of earth sciences, University of
    Melbourne, Australia

    Dr. R.M. Carter, professor, Marine Geophysical Laboratory, James Cook University , Townsville , Australia

    Mr. William Kininmonth, Australasian Climate Research, former Head National
    Climate Centre, Australian Bureau of Meteorology; former Australian delegate to
    World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology, Scientific and
    Technical Review

    Dr. Hendrik Tennekes, former director of research, Royal Netherlands
    Meteorological Institute Dr. Gerrit J. van der Lingen, geologist/paleoclimatologist,
    Climate Change Consultant, Geoscience Research and Investigations, New

    Dr. Patrick J. Michaels, professor of environmental sciences, University of Virginia

    Dr. Nils-Axel Morner, emeritus professor of paleogeophysics & geodynamics, Stockholm University , Stockholm , Sweden

    Dr. Gary D. Sharp, Center for Climate/Ocean Resources Study, Salinas , Calif.

    Dr. Roy W. Spencer, principal research scientist, Earth System Science Center ,
    The University of Alabama, Huntsville

    Dr. Al Pekarek, associate professor of geology, Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
    Dept., St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, Minn.

    Dr. Marcel Leroux, professor emeritus of climatology, University of Lyon , France ;
    former director of Laboratory of Climatology, Risks and Environment, CNRS

    Dr. Paul Reiter, professor, Institut Pasteur, Unit of Insects and Infectious Diseases,
    Paris , France . Expert reviewer, IPCC Working group II, chapter 8 (human health)

    Dr. Zbigniew Jaworowski, physicist and chairman, Scientific Council of Central
    Laboratory for Radiological Protection, Warsaw , Poland

    Dr. Sonja Boehmer-Christiansen, reader, Dept. of Geography, University of Hull ,
    U.K. ; editor, Energy & Environment

    Dr. Hans H.J. Labohm, former advisor to the executive board, Clingendael
    Institute (The Netherlands Institute of International Relations) and an economist
    who has focused on climate change

    Dr. Lee C. Gerhard, senior scientist emeritus, University of Kansas , past director
    and state geologist, Kansas Geological Survey

    Dr. Asmunn Moene, past head of the Forecasting Centre, Meteorological Institute, Norway

    Dr. August H. Auer, past professor of atmospheric science, University of
    Wyoming ; previously chief meteorologist, Meteorological Service (MetService)
    of New Zealand

    Dr. Vincent Gray, expert reviewer for the IPCC and author of The Greenhouse
    Delusion: A Critique of 'Climate Change 2001,' Wellington , N.Z.

    Dr. Howard Hayden, emeritus professor of physics, University of Connecticut

    Dr Benny Peiser, professor of social anthropology, Faculty of Science,
    Liverpool John Moores University , U.K.

    Dr. Jack Barrett, chemist and spectroscopist, formerly with Imperial College
    London, U.K.

    Dr. William J.R. Alexander, professor emeritus, Dept. of Civil and Biosystems
    Engineering, University of Pretoria , South Africa . Member, United Nations
    Scientific and Technical Committee on Natural Disasters, 1994-2000

    Dr. S. Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences, University of
    Virginia ; former director, U.S. Weather Satellite Service

    Dr. Harry N.A. Priem, emeritus professor of planetary geology and isotope
    geophysics, Utrecht University; former director of the Netherlands Institute for
    Isotope Geosciences; past president of the Royal Netherlands Geological &
    Mining Society

    Dr. Robert H. Essenhigh, E.G. Bailey professor of energy conversion, Dept.
    of Mechanical Engineering, The Ohio State University

    Dr. Sallie Baliunas, astrophysicist and climate researcher, Boston , Mass.

    Douglas Hoyt, senior scientist at Raytheon (retired) and co-author of the book
    The Role of the Sun in Climate Change; previously with NCAR, NOAA,
    and the World Radiation Center, Davos, Switzerland

    Dipl.-Ing. Peter Dietze, independent energy advisor and scientific climate and
    carbon modeller, official IPCC reviewer, Bavaria , Germany

    Dr. Boris Winterhalter, senior marine researcher (retired), Geological Survey
    of Finland, former professor in marine geology, University of Helsinki , Finland

    Dr. Wibjorn Karlen, emeritus professor, Dept. of Physical Geography and
    Quaternary Geology, Stockholm University , Sweden

    Dr. Hugh W. Ellsaesser, physicist/meteorologist, previously with the Lawrence
    Livermore National Laboratory, Calif. ; atmospheric consultant.

    Dr. Art Robinson, founder, Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine, Cave Junction, Ore.

    Dr. Arthur Rorsch, emeritus professor of molecular genetics, Leiden University,
    The Netherlands; past board member, Netherlands organization for applied
    research (TNO) in environmental, food and public health

    Dr. Alister McFarquhar, Downing College , Cambridge , U.K. ; international

    Dr. Richard S. Courtney, climate and atmospheric science consultant, IPCC expert reviewer, U.K.
    latehorn, May 16, 2006 IP
  2. Phynder

    Phynder Well-Known Member

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    I am all for "respecting" the environment, but not at the economic costs that Kyoto impose. Good article.
    Phynder, May 16, 2006 IP
  3. latehorn

    latehorn Guest

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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    I will never understand people who hate civilization so much that they will invent problems just to attempt to hurt it. Those folks have emotional issues that are simply beyond my capacity for understanding.

    Another very interesting article on global warming is this one, There IS a problem with global warming... it stopped in 1998.
    Will.Spencer, May 19, 2006 IP
  5. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Hmm, wonder if these esteemed folks will be in Al "We tapped phone calls too" Gore's new movie? Maybe I should channel the thought over to him on tin foil frequency 86753.09 :D
    GTech, May 19, 2006 IP
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    Will.Spencer, May 19, 2006 IP
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Eerie! Had no idea the two were so similar. Of course, Gore is like a time bomb waiting to go off :D
    GTech, May 19, 2006 IP