Keyword Stuffing / Density

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by twalters84, Sep 13, 2007.

  1. #1
    Greetings,

    My client has recently given me a list of keywords he would like distributed throughout his website.

    I have been using the meta tag anaylzer on www.submitexpress.com to get the keyword relevancy close to 100% for my client's pages.

    We are wondering at what point is this considered keyword stuffing?

    I told him I thought this was when the keyword density for a specific keyword is greater than 6-8%. I thought I read somewhere on google that when a webpage is keyword stuffed, it hardly makes sense to humans.

    Could somebody please glance over a few webpages I have done for him and just let me know if I am doing this correctly, so his site will not get banned?

    http://www.realestate-holland.com
    http://www.realestate-holland.com/aboutUs.cfm
    http://www.realestate-holland.com/sellers.cfm
    http://www.realestate-holland.com/areaInfo.cfm

    Thanks in advance for any assistance you can provide us with, as it is always great improving our seo skills.

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
    twalters84, Sep 13, 2007 IP
  2. richkid

    richkid Well-Known Member

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    #2
    i think when you really start to notice keywords in the text you are either at the point or gone to far with the keyword.

    the website should first and foremost be for the visitor not the search engine.

    I have heard that 3-5% is a good keyword density.
     
    richkid, Sep 13, 2007 IP
  3. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    do not stuff your key words in kyour code" it will hurt you in the long run:rolleyes:
     
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  4. twalters84

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    Hello again,

    I was just wondering something. When people talk about keyword density, are they referring to individual words or the keyword phrases?

    For instance, if we have similar keywords like:

    holland michigan real estate
    zeeland michigan real estate
    michigan real estate

    Doesnt the "michigan real estate" count towards the first two? I am not understanding this completely. Could somebody clarify this for me?

    Is there any SEO tools out there where you can put in a keyword phrase (4 words or less) and it will tell you the density? I only see tools for individual words.

    Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
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    richkid Well-Known Member

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    #6
    http://www.widexl.com/remote/search-engines/metatag-analyzer.html

    I use this tool for meta tag relevance and keyword density.

    I had success with website with my main three keywords with 7.5%, 5.5% and 4% respectively.

    Also, Even if I have good keyword density I tried not to repeat the same word in the same sentence.

    It's all about logic. When it is not pleasant to read, it's keyword stuffing to me.
     
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  7. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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  8. twalters84

    twalters84 Peon

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    Greetings,

    I just wanted to thank everyone for their great input.

    The SEO tools really helped and I think I am understanding keyword density a little better.

    Thanks again!

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
    twalters84, Sep 15, 2007 IP
  9. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    you welcomed how about a rep added for the help we gave you:) do you know what that is??:confused:
     
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    himanuzo Well-Known Member

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    #10
    SEO experts have different opinions about keyword density. e.g

    Expert A: 1-3%
    Expert B: 3-7%
    Expert C: 2-5%

    Which do you must follow? :D
     
    himanuzo, Sep 20, 2007 IP
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    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    I agree above by far articles, blogs and ping backs plus book marking work really well as a seo strategy
     
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  12. twalters84

    twalters84 Peon

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    Hey there,

    Sorry for the delay. I have been super busy.

    Enjoy your better reputation :)

    Thanks again for the help!

    Sincerely,
    Travis Walters
     
    twalters84, Sep 21, 2007 IP
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    Make it seem natural. Your readers are not fools, and won't like it if you deliberately keep repeating a search phrase.
     
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    Search Google for "wedding favors". "my wedding favors .com" site comes up #1 in Google.

    Look up the density of "wedding favors" on that site. It's 12%. It's obviously not hurting it if it's #1 in Google and there plenty of competition for that keyword.
     
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    ron21 Banned

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    #16
    avoiding keyword stuffing
    http://www.seoresearcher.com/average-keyword-saturation-google-msn-yahoo.htm
    Google Averages
    Partial matching enabled, Non-Exact Search, Non-Case Sensitive
    Areas Frequency Words Weight Average Prominence
    Head
    TITLE tag 1.0 6.7 72.0% 62%
    META Desctiption tag 0.7 10.8 32% 65.2%
    Body
    Headings 0.5 7.9 32.1% 64.9%
    Link Text 4.7 166.9 14.2% 55.8%
    Hyperlink URL 9.2 N/A N/A N/A
    Body Text 9.7 618 7.8% 56.2%
     
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    #17
    here's something that came up...

    what happens if you have a site that sells DVDs - and one page has a listing of 25 DVDs. Each one has a link that says "Buy this DVD". Say the density of "buy this dvd" is like 25%. Do you get penalized for that? It's obviously not an attempt to be #1 for that search phrase.

    I just want to know how subjective this is. If the above example will penalize you, is there any way to omit search engines from spidering that link, and even so, do you still get a penalty for it?
     
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  18. Aaron111

    Aaron111 Well-Known Member

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    Mark26 try search engine optimize category it is more relevant to your question
    Just A Tip!
     
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    Thanks - I'll post it there!
     
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    #20
    If you want to go with Key word density then keyworddensity.com
    is provide you good review. If u would find 5 to 7% density then it's very good stuff.
     
    niraj11122, Sep 26, 2007 IP