Keyword Found, Ready for Next Step

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by riverrun, Mar 30, 2007.

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    I am very new at this and I am trying to adsorb as much information as I can. I've been lurking and reading for a few days now to get a handle on Key words and how to build a website around them. The reason I am looking at this is because I am looking for another way to supplement the income I was able to make playing online poker. I started that 2 years ago and built up a nice chunk of change but the rules have changed and it is much harder to make a living. The reason I mention this is because I haave the patience to build something slowly and learn a new "game". Im not expecting overnight results thats for sure.

    I have found a keyword that I would like to target. Its a 3 word phrase that was searched over 8000 times according to rushmores keyword analyzer. Its optimized phrase statistic has a value of 800 total results and KEI of over 8000. Its an extension of a 2 word phrase that got over 55,000 hits. There are 10 other 3 word extensions that get 1000 more total results with KEI's over 1000 as well using the 2 word phrase + one word. The 3 word phrase also brings up no competion in the optimized results side. I did a search and there is one competitor at #1 who is optimized but uses a pural of the website I want to use. There are no other decent results to speak of.

    The domain is available that hits the best 3 word phrase on the head in the form of www.one-two-three.com. My first question is....is this the best format to get the most hits and PR on goodle when that phrase is searched....www.onetwothree.com is already taken. Also, How do I know there will be people paying for ads on adsense that appear on my potential page. The competitor seems to have them but I dont know how much he is making per click on them? is there anyway to estimate this. Its a niche market.

    Im ready to jump into this and register a domain come up with specialized content, SEO my page, put adsense on after the traffic comes and wait it out and tweak as necessary but I don't know the first step. I have money to invest in this and want to continue to learn. Is there a newbie guide you can point me to for the steps I need to take to get a site online and working and do you think the keyword and only one competitor is good?
     
    riverrun, Mar 30, 2007 IP
  2. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Just to start you off.

    I wouldnt always trust the searches per day. Ive seen some that say 5,000 a day then I acheived the #1 spot in Google and got barely any traffic. But its a risk you have to take since there is no accurate way to predict searches per day.
     
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  3. riverrun

    riverrun Active Member

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    Is that the per day number that comes up with rushmore's analyzer or per month? I thought since it was so high it would be per month?
     
    riverrun, Mar 30, 2007 IP
  4. aaron_nimocks

    aaron_nimocks Im kind of a big deal Staff

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    Never used that program. But im guessing its what ever it says either per day or per month.

    Point was that no tool is accurate in calculating searches per day. Always be skeptical of the results.
     
    aaron_nimocks, Mar 30, 2007 IP
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    i think that "www.one-two-three.com" is better than "www.onetwothree.com"

    "The competitor seems to have them but I dont know how much he is making per click on them? is there anyway to estimate this. "
    there is no way.
     
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  6. MWD

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    Be so careful with sites that give search results for keyword phrases. I always go for some common sense and run an adwords campaign on the keyword phrase to make sure. It can save you priceless time and effort and that equates to money.

    There is nothing worse than to build a new site, wait 6 months to hit google for your keyword phrase and then to get 20 uniques a day. :mad:

    Also, do not rely on one phrase but incorporate a whole list of relevant words to use. If its hard to get all the words on one page then make another :)

    Remember google will rank your web pages, not your web site.

    Martin.
     
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  7. riverrun

    riverrun Active Member

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    thanks guys...I think this information will make me reevaluate what I was thinking. I think ill diversify my web pages and do a more blanket keyword program. I will test, test, and test some more!
     
    riverrun, Apr 2, 2007 IP
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    Great information here. If most or many of the tools available have a chance of inflating the number of searches then how do most of you that are sucessful end up determining what keywords to use? I agree that taking results with a grain of salt is a good thing but at some level you have to have the faith to take a leap.

    Does crosschecking between different tools provide any value?
     
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  9. BlogLover

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    Putting a dash between keywords in a domain does help
    distinguish your keywords on Google. It can also prove
    helpful if you want to put AdSense on your pages as it
    can result in better keyword selections.

    You can easily lose return visitors to www.onetwothree.com,
    however. I always prefer registering a domain in the
    www.onetwothree.com format. If you really optimize your
    pages (both onpage and offpage) better than the number one
    ranked site you can always be sure to rank on the first
    place. If you are targeting Google specifically it is
    offpage factors that matter more.

    As far as PR is concerned, just concentrate on link building.

    Google does say it punishes domains that are registered
    as misspellings of other domains. I suggest you be a bit
    more creative and find a unique domain. Try to research
    the synonyms for example. It also helps registering shorter
    domains as they are easier to remember. If you need some
    tips on how to get a good short domain you feel free to
    PM me, or just post a help request on my keyword research
    forum (A link to my forum is in my signature).

    Yes there is. Though Google does not make this information
    available publicly, you can get this information from their
    own AdWords programme. You don't have to run an AdWords
    campaign to get this information. There also other websites
    that give these estimates both for free and for a fee.

    Yes :D Me! Simply post your questions on my forum and I will
    give you a step by step guide.

    It depends. If the keyword is not seasonal or a one time
    event then it's worth going for. You must always build
    a firm database of keywords around that primary keyword,
    however. For example you must also research it's complimentary
    keywords and synonyms.

    It's unfortunate that things like this do happen :(
    Here are a few reasons why it happens:
    1. Some bidders have a tendency of using automated requests
      to manage their bids. These bidders have a tendency to inflate
      the demand for particular keywords,
    2. The data gathered by keyword research tools is sampled.
      No keyword research tool gathers information from all search
      engines so they tend to estimate the expected demand by using
      the relative market share,
    3. Some keywords are seasonal. It is helpful study the trend
      of a particular keyword before you decide to make it your main
      keyword.

    The number of searches that my tool displays is the previous
    month's total searches on the Yahoo network.

    The whole idea behind keyword research is knowing what
    your potential visitors (or clients) are looking for.
    Keyword tools help you get this information but because they
    are vulnerable to abuse, the onus is on you determine
    how relevant and practical the results you get are.
     
    BlogLover, Apr 5, 2007 IP
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    If you think that your targeted keywords can give you targeted traffic then go for it.
     
    Janna122003, Apr 5, 2007 IP