Kewwords: how many times?

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by cientificoloco, Oct 3, 2006.

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    I read once that the keywords in your <META keywords> should appear throughout your page at least four times in order to be considered by the spiders. Is that true? Sometimes is hard figuring out how to put some kws four times without obviously spamming.
     
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  2. Binko

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    This is not true. The META keyword tag is the least important of the META tags nowadays.

    Include the main keyword in the TITLE tag once and in the H1 tag once.

    Then you spread out the keyword throughout the bodytext. Never include your keyword so much that the text looks strange.

    Googles algorithm is quite complex so it understand related words. Instead of "pasta" you can use "spaghetti" and "noodles" and "food". If you use these related words instead of only the main keyword it's easier to make the text look natural.

    Don't optimize your web pages for more than 1-2 (maximum 3) keyword phrases. Otherwise the pages are not focused enough.

    But whatever you do, make sure the text looks natural and readible for a human being.
     
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  3. Marneo

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    I have read the opinion of an author who appeared to be in the know that meta keywords should not be separated by commas. Does it matter if they are or not?
     
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    Kaudo Well-Known Member

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    I already mentioned it here couple of times.

    Search your friend google for chocolate.
    http://www.hersheys.com/ jumps up as the fourth in the order (out of 150,000,000 results!!!).

    Go to it´s source code and check, how many times the "chocolate" is in.
    ZERO. If you think that it was some magic, it wasn´t.

    Nowadays, my friends, the onpage optimization (of which the meta keywords for Google is like 0.01%) is nothing if you have LINKS.
     
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  5. nix

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    two to three times,but doesnt really help much, get more backlinks and you will rank high for keywords that you dont even mention ;)
     
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  6. Marneo

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    Any ideas about whether to separate by comnmas or not?
     
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    Yes, you have to seperate by commas otherwise it will be a very long "keyword" and not keywords.
     
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    Thank you very much for your reply DFischer. Yes indeed my sense is that the commas are important to let the bot know where one keyword or phrase ends and another begins (Of course sometimes a keyword is more than one word and therefore a keyphrase so what good would a space alone without a comma do as the bot could rightly be confused as to where one phrase ends and the next begins?) but I read something by a self-proclaimed expert/texpert with a free 10-Day eCourse by email named and he or she wrote the following:
    KEYWORDS - Placed inside of meta tags. Separate your keywords with commas or spaces, not both.

    Indeed verily every time I've examined the source code of another site's pages, the keywords/phrases have been separated by commas. I did recently note an exception though and his site is well ranked for the keywords in his code although the site also has a ton of inbound links and probably other good reasons that it places so well also. In terms of this comma or no comma business though, indeed I could not tell where one phrase ends and the next begins so I have to believe that the bot will run into this same problem. Any other thoughts? Thanks again for your reply.
     
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  9. DFischer

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    The only way to make a keyword is to type

    for e.g
    (not literal)
    <metakeyword code>keyword1, keyword2</metakeyword code>

    If you want a phrase you'd do it like this:
    <metakeyword code>i like cheese, how to make cheese</metakeyword code>

    if you want both:
    <metakeyword code>keyword1, keyword2, i like chees, how to make cheese</metakeyword code>

    You get it now?

    <metakeyword code>keyword1 keyword 2 i like cheese how to make cheese</metakeyword code>Is NOT valid. This is just a very long keyphrase.
     
    DFischer, Oct 5, 2006 IP
  10. cientificoloco

    cientificoloco Well-Known Member

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    <metakeyword code> is new for me. Do you put that in the <head> section? Is it any different that <meta keywords content=... ?
     
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    Thanks again for your guidance and your generosity in helping me DFischer. All the best to you.
     
    Marneo, Oct 6, 2006 IP
  12. DFischer

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    I said it's not literal. It doesn't exist. Use the normal keyword tags.

    Sorry for the confusion.
     
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    im having success with 3% keyword density on a page. Title is the most important factor to onsite optimization.
     
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    I do not agree with that I don’t think you need a , after each keyword look at my space they don’t use any , and they have the #1 spot on so many things
     
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    Meta keyword tag can only help search engines categorize your website, however it doesn't help the ranking.

    Repeating 2-3 times is not a problem, but think about the function of this tag, and you will know that repeating too many times is not a good idea.

    Try to put the most important keywords the first word of this tag, and repeat them 2 - 3 times.
     
    hhheng, Oct 9, 2006 IP