Kenyan couple held for having sex in mosque

That's what menj meant by not allowing the EID holiday! That is a day they celebrate by killing Jews and to stop them from doing so shows intolerance.

 

That might be a less loony argument if we were Jewish.

I can't speak for Mia, debunked, earlperl, or northpointaiki -- but I'm Irish (mostly).

So are you saying that I am sub-human and that my life is not worth considering?

 

I'm Italian, German and Indian (CHEROKEE). I once thought about converting after I found out Sami Davis Jr. was a Jew!

 

My information tells me that those four Palestinians (not seven, as far as I recall) were civillians.

- MENJ

 

Well I'm not a Jew.

- MENJ

 

Now I know it has taken weeks for you to avoid answering another simple question, a question Jaree honorably answered in minutes, but this, I would think, is an easier one to tackle. Your post, and the Sura quoted above, appear not to agree. Please share your thoughts?

 

We must be thinking of a different "EID" then:

http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2006/10/23/seven-palestinians.html
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/news/world/15834657.htm
http://www.tbo.com/news/nationworld/MGBYRIGRNTE.html

And your "sources" are???

 

You should convert.

 

Yes, yes, civilians with rocket launchers.

You know, terrorists.

 

But they aren't officially part of an army so they are innocent civilians just celebrating!

 

You really want to know my answer?

As for Surah 47: 4, you can't even lie properly, can you? This is the actual translation of the verse:

It does not even talk about "heads" and it was referring to "battle". Two things which you actually omitted out of this passage due to your deceptive translation. I suppose your religion teaches you to lie?

- MENJ

 

I don't qualify genetically. Sorry.

- MENJ

 

So you are saying you are not human?

 

Yes, a sword going through skull is very difficult compared to the relatively soft flesh of the neck. Of course, "smiting the neck of the disbeliever" usually results in "cutting off the head of the infidel." Or was it a love tap to the neck, a kind of mild rebuke to the benighted infidel? Now, where were we, and who was dissembling?

I have no religion - I am happily atheist, my good man. My concern is with my treatment of my fellow man, woman, and creature on this earth, in these few decades I have to do something right and good.

Oh, and, by the way, I know I've asked you point blank for several weeks now, but you haven't answered: is it wrong to shoot a defenseless woman in the head before a crowd of cheering men in a football stadium, over crimes such as walking on the street unattended by one's husband?

 

I am saying that I am not a Jew.

- MENJ

 

Which speaks a lot for your incessant hatred for Islam. No wonder why you have no ethics., in these few decades I have to do something right and good.

Of course its wrong. But the Taliban was not responsible for that.

- MENJ

 

Yes, your balanced viewpoints and wide-ranging tolerance are well known, Menj. Menj on Atheists:

I know it is difficult from your worldview to believe, but my ethics are quite keen, my friend. But given your level of apparent hatred, you wouldn't be able to grasp that, so I will let that go.

Now - turning to the Taliban, and its treatment of women. We've got a glimmer of an answer, after a month, if only a glimmer, and if only a continued attempt to delay a direct, honorable answer: so, the Taliban man shooting the woman in the video you were long ago presented but refused to address (after you repeatedly and vociferously contested such a video even existed) - he wasn't responsible for his actions? He stood at point blank range from a woman in a Burkha, threw her to the ground like a sack of manure, and, while men cheered in the stadiums, he put a bullet in her brain and extinguished her life. Someone else made him do this?

 

Now, I know we atheists are less than vermin (shhhh - don't tell my in-laws, that will only feed the fire). Please clarify your views on the genetics of judaism. Is there a genetic requirement to practicing judaism?

 

So, I'm worse than a rat living in a gutter?

It is atheists who are the ethically superior people, as we don't make decisions & do good deeds for the purpose of having a +point in the quest for heaven.

You are the ethically & mentally challenged person here when you advocate murdering unbelievers & wrapping women up in black full bodied clothing by following your religion unquestioningly, and never for a moment since your indoctrination wondered about the validity & rationality (or lack of) of your religion. It makes no difference how well you cheer for & defend your religion. It doesn't matter if the Quran requires you to behead unbelievers in a "battle situation", you're merely interpreting the verses as convenient for you.

You'd probably have endorsed Christianity the same way as you endorse Islam now were you born into a Christian household. Ethics do not have anything to do with religion (threat of being sent to hell), it's a person's conscience & sense of responsibility that determine his/her ethics.

 

I would rather have northpointaliki here as a next door neighbor over menj anyday! I would feel my family would be safer and that I could reason with him on many levels.