Careful with the blanketing statements there. I dont really dig Bush, but he was by far the lesser of the two evils. Kerry would still be sitting on his thumb talking about his "plan". Im not at all pro Bush. I hate a lot of his policies and think he should better explain his long term vision. That being said we still CHOOSE where we live. I sent money to help. I have family down there. It sucks that this happened but I hope we learn from it. Thats all.
Not a blanket statement, meant for those who are so Pro Bush they can not admit any mistake he has ever made. Also not meant for any post of yours I read, even though I may not agree with much of what I read in your posts The real problem with Kerry was he did not have a back bone, if he'd simply of stood his ground and attacked right back I think he could have appeared a better candidate. However since 911 any attack on Bush has been called unamerican at the very least, this is finally changing. Not to mention the Republican spin doctors certainly worked their magic with relative ease. BTW, not democrat or republican think for the most part both parties are insane.
I'll agree with that statement. By the way it is nice to have disagreements and that be ok. That is rare around here. I think the problem with Kerry is he just didnt have a plan at all. I never really heard him properly answer ANY question. If he was asked how he would handle illegal immigration he would answer with something like "I think we should implement a plan that is strong and effective". That isnt an answer. That is crap.
Guess it depends on what you all watched. Yes his plan speaches did not work the greatest, he hoped people would log on and read his plans via his website which they obviously did not. In the debates especially the first one he did however beat Bush hands down. It came down to a vast majority of fear to put Bush in office for another 4 years, simple as that. W/O 911 and the catchy phrase 'terror' can anyone honestly say Bush would have been reelected?
Bush got beat in that debate no doubt. But I wasnt looking for his answers. I already know how he responds. I already know what his policies are and what he does to pursue them. I cant stand many of them, but I know what they are. I read Kerry's "plan". Hell I had it posted on one of my websites. I still never heard it come out of his mouth. How do I know it wasnt written for him? What was HE thinking? That is what I wanted to hear. Nothing. Just "I have a plan". WTF? Where are the Democrats from the JFK days?
You have hit the crux of the issue right there. I'm thinking; you're feeling. We're not likely to ever agree. But, we can agree to disagree.
I will agree on that, Kerry was a dumb shit and failed miserably to deliver his message. That is not to say the content of the 'plan' wasn't better than Bush's, but he had an extremely hard time trying to connect with people. Not getting into a bush v kerry issue though
Am doing and hoping there will be at least 1 candidate worth supporting, not this same old lesser of 2 evils.
Only thing I have to say to that, at the RNC he blasted Kerry for killing weapons programs even though Cheney himself was on record before Kerry made the 'votes' stating they should be killed. If he was to blast Kerry for this should he not also blast Cheney, and others as well? He may have been telling it as it was in his belief, but not in any factual realm.
The obvious difference between the two men is that Dick Cheney believes in cancelling ineffective weapons programs in order to focus resources on more effective weapons programs. Dick is a technocrat. John doesn't believe in spending money to defend American, because he clearly doesn't believe that America is worth defending. To compare the two is like comparing baseball bats and sleeping bags.
LOL, and where or how did you come up with this conclusion exactly? I am not supporting Kerry in this, but to blast Kerry for the voting against a program that Cheney himself stated should be cut than to run around the question such as this is amusing. It should either be A both men were wrong, or B both men were right, don't see how there is another way around it.
hrblcantra: Please do not confuse "one program" with "many votes on many programs over the course of many years". To do so simplifies the issue until the truth disappears.
Not confusing one program, it was also multiples and the statement that you decided to answer with a twist and a turn other than head on was it not? How does kerry voting against weapons programs make it tolerable to trash him for it, while the current vice president stated they should be cut before the votes even came out. What is so hard about responding to this? Well time for me to go to bed, and as far as the blanket statement I was accused of before, this is the exact reason it was stated from this users posts. I'm willing to agree to disagree, etc but when you can't for some reason face the facts and have to dodge such as this it's just plain tiring.
I have tried my best to explain this to you. After reviewing my message, it seems straightforward and not terribly difficult to read. I have said all that needs to be said on this point. I feel no burden of responsibility to assist you further. The answers are already there, waiting for you.