GTech: That is an excellent question. It forces me to think about two other questions: 1. Why did the buses which were used leave the city half-empty? 2. Why did people refuse to evacuate when ordered to? I try not to even think about this one: 3. Why were residents firing on the bus drivers? Which leads me to this one: 4. Why did the Governor of Louisiana refuse National Guard assistance? And then, of course, I cannot help but wonder about this one: 5. Why do people blame President Bush for the decisions of the Mayor of New Orleans and the Governor of Louisiana?
At the very least the buses should have been moved to high ground, parked tightly but in a staircase configuration (so that the front door is exposed) and made available as temporary accommodation.
where would they have taken the people? was there even gas left in new orleans? whenever there is a hurricane arround here the gas is the first stuff to go
These are excellent points. The answer seems to be some sort of weird story where the Mayor of New Orleans felt that the storm was George Bush's problem, not his problem or the problem for the residents of New Orleans. The Mayor literally did nothing. But that is even better than the Governor, who actually managed to do less than nothing by refusing to allow the National Guard to assist.
It's not like this thing happened overnight. It's like the Governor of Louisana and the Mayor of New Orleans don't get the Weather Channel.
Will, good questions. From the liberal's point of view, they are very easy to answer: It was Bush's fault. It doesn't take any rational or thought to utter the words. From a realistic stand point, they among many other questions that people (even some of the media) are starting to ask. Sarah, from a timeline perspective, I think the buses could have been used to evacuate people. There was plenty of time. Oddly enough, as I'm listening to the news just now, a reporter said there were some 2000 buses available. Don't know how accurate that is, but it would only compound the question even more. If we look a the timeline: 6:22 PM Pacific Friday 8/26/05 Blanco declares state of emergency Saturday August 27, 2005 2:29 Eastern http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...ate+new+Orleans+aug+27&hl=en&client=firefox-a "This is not a test," New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin said at a news conference. He said he would probably ask people to leave at daybreak Sunday, and said the Superdome could be pressed into use as a shelter of last resort for people who do not have cars. Sunday August 28, 2005 Waits until Sunday for evacuation, after urging from Bush (Note, if Bush had not urged them, how much worse would it be?) http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cach...o+evacuate+new+Orleans&hl=en&client=firefox-a Maybe I just don't understand everything that happened between Friday and Sunday, but two days past (and then on into the day) where these buses could have been used. The amount of people at the Superdome could have been evacuated, possibly even more. Add to the questions that are mounting: What is FEMA's response time to disasters?
I wasn't one of the people blaming GW, I was one of the people who think the government should help trapped people there is a difference Will,
1. Out of the city. It's part of their disaster plan. 2. Most cities have their own gasoline services, especially big cities. Public transportation buses do not use the local Shell or Diamond Shamrock. 3. See 2.
I'm not terribly concerned with red rep, most people don't like me anyway. ;-) I just think it's funny that the green ones I've received are signed while the reds aren't. /Back to the topic now, sorry for the diversion.
ferret77: Please check your grasp of reality against the reality reported by the Communist News Network: http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/09/06/katrina.impact/index.html
Yeah there are some people that are refusing to leave and are actually hiding from rescue operations, but they are in the minority.
That is funny and sad. Question is- was it just 2 seperate reporters writing it there own way or was it the same reporter? Where did you find these pictures so I can see the source materials?
Those two pictures with their captions were also run in one of the major Canadian newspapers. Just a little bit of racial prejudice I believe. But I guess Will would say that's the American way. They made the decision to be born Black. And that's what America is all about, free choice! So not only did the "morons" choose to live in New Orleans, but hell, the even chose to be born Black. That is really moron to the second power. Dumb fucks! Why would anybody ever want to help them? P.S. All you cowards who won't sign your red reps enjoy yourself on this one. I don't care if you rep me right out of the forum. Go for it!
I didn't work - you don't make Will look racist, but you did make yourself look foolish. Interesting read if you go to the link the Hodgedup has. Open up your eyes a little instead of just posting to attack certain members. And I thought you wouldv'e wanted to defend the AP??? Especially the french one?