Huh? I was not arguing one religion over another, I was stating a fact. Everything you stated was part of each of their belief system. As I stated the difference is the beliefs of all three religions and who they believe to the be the true prophets of God. I never said that it was just the prophets. I was addressing the statement where someone was making the difference between the God of the two religions. All three religions concede that they are the same God but they do not share the same beliefs beyond that. Personally, I find a lot of fault in all three and in fact all major religions. However, I still defend the right of anyone to believe what they believe and it is not mine or anyone else's place to tell people what they should believe.
All religions are fake and followed by primitive people who lack common sense, The ability to think for themselves and an understanding of science. The thing is, Most people don't even realize that their religion of choice is simply a result of the area they grew up in and a result of the brainwashing of their parents. They believe whatever is accepted in their country or whatever their parents were previously brainwashed in to. But don't worry. As science progresses we edge closer to the point where we will be able to explain the things the religious credit god with and we can finally rid the planet of this cancerous growth which we call religion. It's good to see so many kids taking an interest in atheism. The internet has really helped spread truth and an understanding of science. Ya know, real things, Not fairy stories.
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) married Aisha on God's command and Aisha never mentioned they ever entered into a physical relationship. And Aisha spent all her life teaching people about the wonderful character of Muhammad (PBUH). And the killing of which non-believers are you talking about? In war, right? Nope. You are not well-informed in this regard. Not every prophet was completely sinless. It is even in the Quran when Allah said to the Muhammad (PBUH) that "May Allah forgive you". He himself even said that he wouldn't go to Paradise if Allah wouldn't forgive him. Fine? Tell me where in the Quran it is told them to do that except as punishment. Don't tell me what people are doing in the name of Islam! And Christianity is tolerant? Don't let me get started on that. Because the verses I know in the Bible won't do good to the Christians. And I myself believe that they were added by people and not revelations of God.
9 yeard old. They consumated the relationship. Nope. In general. We've even had previous forum members who advocated as such. Usually they express it mainly towards athiests at first, but it usually branches out from there pretty easily. “As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe. Allah hath set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing, and on their eyes is a veil; great is the penalty they (incur)†This argument doesn't really work for me. you can claim that the Quran speaks about peace. Evidence all over the world speaks quite to the contrary. Where Islam goes, death follows. It's a quite remarkable pattern, actually. I know it's not religously based though. It's just done in the name of religion. I'm not saying that individual bible verses are tolerant. I'm saying the christians ignore the ones that do not function in the 21st century. Christians aren't out slaughtering people who aren't christian. A radical christian says "jesus loves you" a radical muslim kills you. See the difference? Islam needs a makeover to get to, say, the 15 century, at least. Oppressing people in the name of religion just doesn't work in the real world. No, not fine. You are forgetting that muslims do not believe in free will. Qadarism was rejected by muslims and is considered heresy, correct? The rejection of Qadarism was done because it limited Allah's "control" over all things. If people had free will, Allah's power is limited, isn't it? This explains why radical muslims never condemn acts of another muslim; they whitewash it as a misunderstanding or blame the victim. Or its done by Allah's will. http://www.tafsir.com/default.asp?sid=2&tid=869 Says Ibn Kathir: “These Ayat [verses] indicate that whomever Allah has written to be miserable, they shall never find anyone to guide them to happiness, and whomever Allah directs to misguidance, he shall never find anyone to guide him.†While I think it's awesome that Allah has decided that some people are destined to be miserable, I'm not sure thats a rational philosophy for the 21st century. No free will. Therefore, for believers, there is no sin. Everything is done by the will of Allah. Allahu akbar, right?
Yeah right. When you haven't got an explanation, this is what you say. Quran says that a man who takes the life of one innocent person, it as if he took the life of the entire humanity. You can judge Muslims by this verse. What's wrong with the verse? Thanks for proving my point further. The Quran teaches peace. And you should call the terrorists, terrorists only; not representatives of Islam! And you can go on and punish who really are terrorists, starting with George W. Bush! But doesn't it make one hypocritic? Believing it is the word of God and disobeying it? And by the way, the teachings of Islam are Eternal. Because God made them for us. We might not understand them because His thinking is not limited, ours is. There is no commandment of Islam that is against the society. Man will always be the same and have the same needs. Nor is there any scientific error in the Quran. In fact, it has innumeral scientific miracles! You need to go into the depth to understand this. Allah says in the Quran that man has free will and he can choose whether or not to obey Allah and this is what this world is all about. Find Allah, and obey Him. Ignore His message, and burn in Hell. The verse refers to the fact that Allah has the power to guide. No one guide whom Allah does not guide, nor can anyone misguide whom Allah guides. There's nothing about freewill here! And of course, Allah-u-Akbar!
Nothing on the face of it, but lots when you look at what Islam considers a sin, and the punishments it recommends for those. People judge EVERYONE by the way they behave, Islam and Muslims are no different, your behaviour doesnt reflect that of a peaceful religion and so you will be treated as such......
Capital punishment is for only murder, rape and adultery (cheating on your spouse). Fornication is also liable but there is an alternative of 80 stripes. And if you know, adultery and fornication are the main cause of spread of AIDS! What's wrong with my behaviour?
Now where's my bone gone? That's right, I have no common sense to find it. Oh well. Duh!! Your statement is arrogant and also ignorant in volumes. Hmmm. My organization invited me to look into the Bible for myself when I was 39. That kinda rules out your "brainwashing from parents" theory. Our organization is flourishing worldwide in over 250 lands and in over 100 languages and continues to grow. That blows your "country" theory out of the water too. Not bad for a bone throwing ape with no common sense huh? Col
You just did it, just then, you said that you murder people for adultery then tried to justify it with the AIDS argument, well gues what, when your prohpet apparently wrote that, there was no AIDS, it's NOT REASONABLE TO KILL SOMEONE FOR HAVING AN AFFAIR. Least of all is it reasonable to STONE another human being, you cannot deny mulsims take part in stonings. Heres what's wrong with your behaviour, I didn't wanna post this because IT IS DISGUSTING, but heres your religion for you ..... Please do NOT watch this video if you're under 21, have a weak heart, or are offended by innocent people being murdered at the hand of Islam. http://www.nomullas.com/bigley-beheaded.wmv This is a creation of Islam, and nothing else.
Arrogant, Rightly so. Ignorant? From a guy who believes a 2000 year old fairy story? That's rich. Let me guess... Just after a divorce or the loss of a parent? They tend to strike at vulnerable people, It's the best time to take advantage of someone. It hardly blows it out of the water... Unless you are a Hindu or buddhist living in southern America. I would bet a pound to a penny that you are a white American who believes in one of the branches of Christianity. Well how could i know that if my "country theory" was flawed. Why didn't you pick Islam or sikhism if this "country theory" holds no water?
Not a creation of Islam! But Muslims! And the rules aren't from the Prophet, they're from God! And God knows what humans will be encountering today and tomorrow!
Islam === Muslims, it's the same thing. Mulsims are a product of islam, and violence opression and murder are product of muslims, meaning the "parent" of all of this is ISLAM Theres no way to get out of it when faced with such overwhelming evidence, face it you might aswell belong to the KKK .....
NO! The problem is that the media shows you only the terrorist Muslims. And no one shows the true Muslims who are trying to bring them to reality ie the true Islam! Even here in Pakistan, there are many Muslims desperately trying to bring such Muslims to the truth! What is KKK?
I'd disagree with the original poster about religion being a form of dictatorship, in that it controls or restricts what people believe. (or at least, seeks to influence their beliefs). You could argue that advertising does the same, or campaigning for a political party, or saving the wales. At the same time, different religions and cults have sought to excercise different degrees of 'control' over their followers. Some are fairly generalised, others mandate specific rules of everyday behavior, and verge into jurisprudence. As for this argument about Islam, I would suggest people look at actions rather than words. As far as I am aware, all religions have been used at some stages to justify acts of violence or warfare. However, the bloodshed that started when Mohammed invaded Mecca , which has continued for about 1400 years, puts every other religion in the pale. There is simply no comparison. This is a historical fact and cannot be wished away by appealing to selective passages in the Koran. Meow Purr.
Our TV doesn't only show Muslim terrorists, it shows them on the news for what they do & lots of other stations show them in a positive light. Nobody on DP thinks all Muslims are terrorists or are all bad, that's not true. What most are saying is that the religion of peace has a lot of nasty followers who follow their beliefs very strictly which leads to violence.
Mate. You are fishing with the wrong bait. You have no idea about me. Just keep guessing. You might get ONR thing correct. You are wrong on every account so far....LOL Col
Actually the problem is exactly that attitude, trying to pretend that it's only a small portion of the Islam society that do and believe in this sort of violence when in reality if it were only a small portion of the Islam society then we wouldnt even get to hear about it. The problem is actually deeply ingrained into your culture, religion and clearly the way you percieve the rest of the world. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KKK I'm glad you think you're making a difference, but to make that difference actually mean something, you must first concede that there is a problem, and that problem isn't down to anyone or anything but Islam.
Oh, Right, So you are a Buddhist then? Didn't think so.... Even if i was to get one thing correct it would be that you are a westerner who believes in a branch of Christianity (judaeo religions). Strange, How you, A westerner, Wasn't indoctrinated in to Islam, Buddhism or Sikhism, Isn't it? After all, My "country theory" holds no water, Right? It must have been a complete coincidence that you, A westerner, Chose a branch of Christianity.
I am not a Buddhist, but there are plenty of Buddhists around where I live, amongst other middle east based doctrines. I reside in a country that "seems to" not reject other forms of worship. You think I live in USA? I have no idea how you come to that conclusion. I am an Aussie mate! I would not call it a "branch of Christianity" even though it may look that way to you. We call it "true christianity" because we adhere to God's word and try our best to harmonize our lives with it's teachings. Happily, I might add. Col
So a westerner then,, Like i said. I hope you don't adhere to Gods word too much, Or do you cherry pick the bits you like and chose to adhere to those? I take it for instance you don't take part in child slavery, Even though god permits it.