June 27th revisited

Discussion in 'Google' started by MikeSwede, Jul 16, 2006.

  1. Sem-Advance

    Sem-Advance Notable Member

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    #221
    maha

    I hate to break the news to you but endgadget was built by the blogosphere and not Google.

    With this amount of links

    [SIZE=-1]Results 1 - 10 of about 48,700 linking

    Endgadget does not.. nor never needed.. Google to drive traffic.

    In fact I am willing to wager $50.00 that says they receive less than 10% of their monthly traffic from Google.






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  2. funlounge

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    #222
    Mobileray,
    If you repeat the keyword more than 3 times in the meta tags, than
    the search engines consider it as spam...
    this is a known fact

     
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    ascensions Active Member

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    #223
    I'm curious what hosting company is everyone using who is effected? I discovered something tonight quite odd, every page on my site is serving a 302 response. I'm with Godaddy, and it seems to be nothing I've done. I've emailed them to see what could possible be going on. I'm starting to get a little upset to think I've been blaming Google and it might have been Godaddy.
     
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    #224
    Mine were on DreamHost when this whole thing began, but I have since moved most of them on ASO.

    However, the ones that were moved, and the ones that are still at DH, all show correct header responses as far as I can tell.

    I did have some redirects from other domains (mysite.net, etc) that I had set up through the control panel at DH, and they weren't set up correctly (they were returning 302) so I fixed them via .htaccess about two weeks ago.

    Note to fellow DreamHost users: if you've set up redirects via their control panel they probably aren't returning 301s – go check!
     
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    #225
    BTW, I think I'm starting to see some minor recovery in the SERPs as of today. Nothing huge, but I'm definitely seeing more traffic from Google on a wider range of keywords than I have been since Aug 17th.

    Once again – not huge, but better...
     
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  6. KLB

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    #226
    I too am seeing a minor recovery in Google SERPs since Aug 17th. My traffic is still down by around 70% - 80%, but I am seeing a slight increase in traffic.
     
    KLB, Aug 25, 2006 IP
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    #227
    It's weird, I've been busting my head open trying to figure out what triggered the fallout. I've seen a rebound as well, but nothing what it was like before the penalty/update.

    My first guess was that on the 27th, Google reloaded a partial indexing containing the first 25% of every page. Since alot of my pages had the initial 25% of the page as the same content (ie- menus, logos, etc.) I assumed in might be a temporary duplicate content penalty until Google could do a full index of the pages, thereby separating the content. I moved my left hand menu to the right hand side hoping this will assist in the process.

    This was my theory until tonight. It still may be the case. But I did a server header check on the domain tonight and it responds as a 302 on every page. Weird I thought. Seems as though go-daddy had a huge malformed header issue with some sites due to a third party vendor. It was a huge deal with Apple's computer browsers. But I use windows so I didn't pick up on it till tonight doing a header check. It's responding with this:

    HTTP/1.1 302 Moved Temporarily Content-Length: 0 Location: ?ABCDEFGH 
    Code (markup):
    This is showing up on EVERY page. Needless to say I checked my other domains and all others are fine. Double checked the .htaccess, and everything else I can think of. I email Godaddy, and according to their website, they should have responded by now. I've got to say, I'm a little bit upset that I may have missed out on a month of revenue due to my hosting. It's one thing if Google messes up, it's another thing all together when you pay for hosting and they are the reason you've lost 100s of dollars.

    What makes things worst is that other then the aforementioned Apple browser notation, not a whole lot of information exists on the Internet about malformed headers, or how and what godaddy is doing about it. I'm not sure if there is a whole lot I can do about it, but wait it out see if support responds, and if not switch to another host. But I wanted to post this here in case anyone else of like circumstance my stumble upon this.
     
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  8. hans

    hans Well-Known Member

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    #228
    my site is hosted 1and1 - there might be a co-relationship godaddy-1and1 as i recently sa a godaddy registered domain using a 1and1 NS

    but since aug 17 2000 i am recovering
    traffic is back to normal - just like before eventhough the number of pages indexed still is at about 30% - currently G adds daily a few dozen pages more
    hence there is hope for full recovery soon

    the cause of june 27th may however be the server down time for several hrs on june 27. from my part of the globe my adsense server was down for many hours - my next days stats showed the db loss as well as the keyword tracker showed loss of all serps

    since adsense data may be stored on a sepereate HIGH level server for sensitive data - such as certain search db's as well ...

    may be human error at G or hacker that day
     
    hans, Aug 26, 2006 IP
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    #229
    As competition in the search engines market increase, Google has to take risks, especially with the release of MS Vista
     
    infonote, Aug 26, 2006 IP
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    #230
    1. The 302 redirect issue is a longstanding one with GoDaddy hosting. I use GoDaddy domain registration along with a couple of others but that is just one of the reasons NOT to use GoDaddy hosting.

    2. I don't know of any link whatsoever between GoDaddy domain registration and 1-and-1 hosting -- they are two different things entirely.

    3. The 302 headers seem to have been a huge part of the Big Daddy updates and a huge part of the problems that many webmasters have had since the Big Daddy updates.
     
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    #231
    I'm still early in the process and I'm giving Godaddy a chance to correct the matter, but say if I do start looking for another provider, does anyone have a recommendation of a hosting company with simular bandwidth packages & pricing, who I can reliably trust?
     
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  12. Sem-Advance

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    #232

    Cheap hosting is the bane on most websites existence...web hosting can do more damage to your web rankings than most competitors it seems.

    Better places to host

    rackspace

    hostgator

    [SIZE=-1]networksolutions

    About all that I know of which are good and without limitations

    One thing you need to watch for is Godaddy Yahoo and others do not allow full scripting use and with most others the software set ups on the server are outdated....such as older versions of PHP which do not support incremental updates via php..

    Research research research!!!!
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    #233
    Agreed. Cheap hosting can result in quality of service and reliablity problems. Getting an exclusive IP is also important.

    The web host I have been using for six years now is Pair Networks (http://Pair.com). In general they are very reliable and the issue a unique IP address for every domain they host.
     
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    #234

    Unique IP's when using a reseller account??

    or are you speaking of just one domain per hosting plan??

    By the way the avatar you use is my favorite.

    Peace

    Clint
     
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    #235
    I have around eight domains on my account and every one of them has their own IP address. Basically they charge $1 per month for each extra domain/IP.
     
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    #236
    Man that is some of the best information I have found in months...

    Thanks and green to you....
     
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    hans Well-Known Member

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    #237
    it seems Google still is recovering form the June 27 event

    as of yesterday I saw for the first time in regular pages displayed in the site: result page a last crawled date
    it is - 26 Aug 2006 -

    eventhough most other pages have a cached version frm within the last 2-3 weeks - none of them has a date displayed in the result-page

    this lets me assume that G still may have a salad in the db fields for the sites hit by the june 27 event.

    G is regaining daily more pages form the domain and all serps are recovering back to hormal or higher than before - hwoever the recovery seems to be much slower than any other similar incident before.

    some datacenters still show number of pages in site 10-30 times higher than real number of pages while other datacenters are near the real numbers

    I am wondering if anyone of you whowas hit by the june 27 G crash has similar last crawled date observation for HIS site(s) ??
     
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    #238
    Has anyone had a recovery since the Aug. 17th "update"? I wonder how long it will take this time before they do another "update".
     
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    #239
    I'm still not recovered from the June 27th update....
     
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    #240
    what happened on june 27 hs been said on this or other thread:

    a G server down of many hoursn just preceding the data loss ( serps loss ) of many sites
     
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