I think the muslims here would make their own religion look good by condemning the actions, and not defending them. I never said all muslims are terrorists. I said those that support terrorists are complicit in their terrorists acts. However, I don't believe all muslims support and defend terrorists. Also the hate has been coming toward the jews based on several anti semitic threads that I read before even starting to post here. Don't cry victim if you are the one spewing the hate and cry when you have negative stuff regarding your religion posted when you are so quick to condemn other's religion.
I think the anti-female cicumcision pro-male circumcision crowd would lend their arguments some credibility if they weren't blatent hypocrites praising one form of genital mutilation while condemning another.
That's true. I believe personally the reason they don't, no matter how bad the acts carried out are, or how against the act the person is - that generally speaking most of that affected group would not partake or condemn the act when the thread was not posted with honesty. I don't think I could condemn a crime no matter how brutal by a black man, if it were posted by a racist who only or mostly posts topics like these for example: White person shot by an afro White woman raped by an african White woman given death sentence by black judge Blacks commit the most robbery's Blacks more likely to give people STD's White people targeted in Obama campaign School full for my son but blacks attend there America ran by a black man Slave trade was not all bad Oh come, come... you know Jewish circumcision is nice. Their god is real! would god want suffering? are you an hater or anti-semite?
no need to tell, I know you are among the 'chosen ones' I appreciate your concern for Islam, I wonder why you rebuked me when I also tired to highlight the same for Jewish , It sure is a part of Jewish Traditions for some, Just Like some guys in Somalia believe that whipping women is part of Islam Do you open a thread about every news story you hear ? I also did not 'drag' something in the thread, we were already discussing circumcision If you read at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_cutting#Laws_and_prevalence you will see that Female circumcision is banned in most of the countries stated, which clearly shows that it is not part of Islam rather part of local culture of mentioned countries even the Jews in Ethiopia Followed same http://www.popline.org/docs/1252/134329.html
new, you must hate being burdened with logic. The argument that it's a "tradition" is so silly and one sided that, just as you said, abuse could also be a "tradition" It's just more difficult, and takes an adult, to treat all people and cases the same...The rest of the world has it easy by picking sides.
You need to watch this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzIXIjaf5jU&feature=related they do suck child's penis in the ceremony.
Did you miss the little device he tossed after? He didn't suck on the penis of the baby. WOW. The things that some people WANT to see that creates their own reality. (sounds like a song.)
Ahh so he sucked blood from a childs mutilated penis using a straw.... That's hardly even sick and twisted at all. Are you listening to yourself? Do you know what you are saying? Regardless what the video shows mohel do suck the childs penis, children have contracted std's because of it and children have died.
OK, you are trying to say he got blood and you don't know the device... hmmm... The other who actually puts his mouth on is a bit tweaked if you ask me, but like brwntown said, this is a minority. At the same time he is not doing something sexual from what I can tell unlike some here are trying to make this out to be. Evil minds can add evil to anything. Not that I condone any blood sucking which would be even against the Jewish laws, I just don't see it the same way you are, but I don't go looking for videos of men sucking on children.
Interesting, lets see what the next excuse is, will it be, but: More Muslims do this than Jews? Islam lead these Jews astray? It's propaganda? Or, do what they say the Muslims do, and deny that it is part of their religion? The answer is most probably not going to be "ah seen, so it's not just Muslims, but whatever, the concept of mutilation is wrong". I wonder why others do? maybe it is because some people deny that it happens until they are presented with it. IDK I may be wrong, sorry for crying This article contains many good points: Maybe these baby torturers can at least make the process painless......
Debunked, the guy is sucking blood from a child mutilated penis. Straw or no straw, sexual or not, that is fucked up.
this was a big topic in new york a while back as a kid died. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/26/n...25720000&en=7f688eb83442b177&ei=5070&emc=eta1
Since I was asked for the percentage of these acts: From that same article: Hrmm, I still don't know the exact statistics, and I doubt they keep records and if they do keep records I doubt they are made public... But 2000 times in just one city in America never mind the entire world, (I don't know but I think) the overall number is staggering, 2000 is a lot.
I think this is the first time browntwn is condemning Israel, no paycheck for him from Mossad this month.
Both are carried out because of an ancient book? - yes. Both are carried out for god? - yes. Both are cruel and barbaric? - no. well err maybe. Both cause pain? - yes. Both affect the sexual organs? - NNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!. one affect slightly. the other destroys. said for the 1000th time. Both are against the will of the person? - yes. Hope this helps.
Nearly... Would you care if you were pick-pocketed instead of street robbed? Isn't it the case that in the former you were just slightly robbed? Both these practices are against the will, for god, for a book and are painful, you agree with that, in reality that should be enough for a reasonable person to conclude that it is bullshit and wrong. Do you agree that in all circumstions that they should at least use an anaesthetic? Until these mutilations are outlawed or stopped?
you just wont get it. Yes. they are all bullshit and wrong. Yes. They should use anaesthetic. Yes. They should be outlawed and stopped (which basically mean to outlaw and stop religions...) But No: one is just bullshit and wrong, the other one is horrible (except for bullshit and wrong): because of its consequences, and not just because of its mere existence. As I explained to you 100000 times already, its all about where you put the limit. Imagine an imaginary religion where you would tap the newborn 3 times on the head with a piece of paper. Its also bullshit and wrong. but it doesn't matter much? Compare it with another imaginary religion where you have to remove the newborn's ears right after birth. Its also bullshit and wrong. But unlike the 1st example, it is also barbaric and abusive. I see the difference between the Female and Male genitile mutilations exactly as is the difference between my two imaginary examples above. I'm sorry for you that you are unable to get my point.
As explained many times before female circumcision has got nothing to do with religion and it is part of tradition in Africa which is evident by the fact that even Jews in Africa engage in the same practice. Are you ready to condemn Judaism for female circumcision as you do with Islam?