Hi, I have toying with the idea of both CMS and have both running on different sites, albeit just for testing only. Joomla looks really good but Drupal is said to be SE friendly and able to do multi sites...but in my case have been cracking my head with Drupal trying to understand this and that...Joomla installed in 5 mins and the admin panel is just beautiful...the best I've seen. I have also set up e107 before and it looks almost as good as Joomla and plugins are just one click... However the bottom line for me is results..Many of you say this or that CMS is the best...but may I ask...whats the results like? Definition of results? Well, how many visitors and how much are you earning per month with the CMS you're on? This two are the most important results....I could use any CMS no matter if I just want to do a website for fun or a hobby site... Can I get some feedback here?
i have never used drupal, but i can tell you that joomla is really really good and you can make it SEF. it really comes down to what you want to do.
Your definition is fundamentally flawed - I have sites without ANY CMS that earn me money - so the best cms is in fact none! Now, in reality, the best CMS is the one YOU feel most comfortable setting up, using and upgrading to the next version as will be required. Do what you have done, install them all, set up a small test site, install some addons, do an upgrade on them, and once you have done that then you will know which is the Best CMS for you.
Thks for your views, I understand that earning money doesnt require a CMS, but if we want to set up a solid website that we'd be proud to show off to our firends and family...now wouldnt it be nicer to have it earn some decent cash too? The marketing gurus always point you to their one page sales pages...I know that too and it dosent require any CMS to make such a page. But I really wanna set up a good website and I think its important to be sure of the backbone right off the start... As I mentioned Drupal and Joomla, basically I've narrowed down to this two... and the problem is I cant make up my mind which one... I will probably not find another CMS that is so user friendly and beautiful as Joomla and free at the same time... I will also not find another CMS that hold so much promise as Drupal although it is a pain right now and to be honest, it takes considerable work and expense to make it look anywhere like the polished Joomla. Whats holding me back is some of the whirl going around that pretty Joomla cannot really handle a huge website in the future unlike the workhorse Drupal and may require some major overhaul of its code in order to do multi sites. Guys, please share your real time experiences with both these CMS, as in how soon you managed to get decent page rank/traffic and the region of earnings on them...how are you doing on them?
you got it all right mate. Drupal is very difficult to learn but once you get the hang of it its better then joomla. But if you are not THAT serious about SEO then you can go with joomla, its very easy to learn and for a newbie it makes life much easy.
They all have very serious problems with server load if your site gets busy. Does anyone claim to have a CMS on a shared account with more than 6,000 uniques (visitors not hits) per day (or even 4,000)? If so I'll be really interested in how you keep the server load OK. Thanks
That aspect of performancing is what bothers me too...My only hope is that my site should be earning enough to host it then on a dedicated server.... Which is why we'd all be interested to hear from others here what their mean "normal" earnings are like and how's the traffic like on "normal" site, not a "mega" site. A mega site would probably be on Typo3 or a freakin expensive CMS...with paid administrators....but that's not what we are discussing here.
OK I think I've heard 'The Onion' uses Drupal. Both have really good communities. Also, you might want to spend a few more bucks a month for a host who claims to offer "Expert Drupal Hosting" or "Joomla Friendly". They might be slower to suspend you for using some server load (IMO, this helpful suggestion does not apply to Siteground hosting).
I use Drupal for a number of sites, including the "test" site in my signature -- which may not be a good example of what Drupal can do. I'm also playing with Joomla for another site makeover, but my concern is that Joomla seems to be not nearly as flexible as Drupal in being able to create SE-friendly URLs. This is a major concern because in my site makeover, I have to be able to create new page URLs that are exactly the same as the old URLs. With Drupal, this is extremely simple. You can name any page's URL anything you want. With Joomla it looks like it requires painful code changes, for each page -- unless I've missed something. I know with Joomla you can have the URL be the page title, but I need much more flexibility than that.
Drupal all the way. Joomla is horrible. If you want search engine friendly URL, you have to pay. If you want better theme, you have to pay. If you want to have some directory or other better extension, guess what, you have to pay again.
As far as I know, both Joomla and Drupal are very near to coming out with their latest versions. In fact Joomla has the latest version = 1.5 out in beta and they say that code clean up is a top priority. It definitely took me a long time to FTP the script into my webspace, showing just how much code (redundant or not) is inside...(never tried manually unpacking) Drupal takes about 15-20 minutes only....but then once you set it up, you see why....(it is hardly a bare basic page!) As for opening (my) test sites, Joomla works slightly faster than Drupal, so I'm wondering if when the Drupal modules are installed, will the page load even slower? Making a comparison on both sites...Drupal.org frequently is quite slow to open pages..on my connection But Joomla.org is not slow, and I think they have more users, plus with so many images and avatars in the forum compared to the no frills Drupal forum, makes me wonder if Drupal is in fact slower...!! I'm really waiting for Joomla 1.5 to be finalised, however as for SEF pages I dont know what changes if any, will show... Is Open SEF the only way to get SE friendly urls and btw is it really paid one? As for taxonomy/categorization which Drupal is the champ, the Joomla team has said they will improve that in 1.5, so we'll see. I might as well say here that I intend to start an article directory site but make it look good, interactive and community like, so which one (Drupal/Joomla) would really be the best choice?
Joomla used to be called Mambo, and it is Australian made. I've used Joomla, and it's a bitch to create a community with. Sorry to say that. Wordpress is better, since it provides an easier way for people to post without having to know too much HTML.
SO what? You can do that in JOOMLA... it comes with WYSIWYG editor... anyway JOOMLA and wordpress are two diffrent things. one is Complete CMS and later is just a blog....
I have used Joomla and im more than happy with it so far.Cant tell about problems it heavy traffic,average is around 400 unique hits.Still works for me
you have 3 option to make big portal site with scripts one is joomla second is joomla and the last one is joomla