joomla going to hell?

Discussion in 'Joomla' started by kanter, Feb 6, 2009.

  1. #1
    is it just me or is joomla going to hell? they seem WAY behind the times compared to wordpress and/or drupal which both have developed rapidly and reliably...

    i stopped using joomla on all my sites this past 6 months and now i'm using wordpress for all kinds of sites... its just too reliable. joomla is too rickety and their 1.5 system is way too complicated and inefficient.

    how are they still popular? you guys think they are gonna die soon? i do.
     
    kanter, Feb 6, 2009 IP
  2. resaik_king

    resaik_king Active Member

    Messages:
    1,049
    Likes Received:
    14
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    80
    #2
    I don't think Joomla will die. The Joomla community is still active but wordpress is more common because its platform in not complicated compared to Joomla.
     
    resaik_king, Feb 6, 2009 IP
  3. ~kev~

    ~kev~ Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,866
    Likes Received:
    194
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    110
    #3
    Joomla has been going downhill for years.

    Even though there have been concerns about joomla security, I have not heard anything that the developers have addressed the issue. There support forums are run by heavy handed admins. Dont bother asking for support, get ready to beg for support. When looking for answers in their support forums, one thread goes to another, which goes to another, which goes to another, and then you right back at the thread you started from. The whole thing is a mess.

    There are SOO many factors why people are leaving Joomla, a book could be written on all of them.
     
    ~kev~, Feb 6, 2009 IP
  4. Mr Goldberg

    Mr Goldberg Banned

    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #4
    We dont think so..
    We have been working on Joomla since 3 yrs now,and We have worked for more than 1200 clients ,big and small.
    Now also,we have around 100s of quote mails and this makes it clear that,Joomla is not going to die at all.
    And now,Joomla 1.6 is going to come,which will resolve the complete ACL issue also..

    Joomla Team is the finest team and it they are very very concerned about everything..

    :)
     
    Mr Goldberg, Feb 6, 2009 IP
  5. Curtis129

    Curtis129 Peon

    Messages:
    221
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #5
    joomla is still very good for the level its still at. + its free. why would you wanna argue anymore?
     
    Curtis129, Feb 6, 2009 IP
  6. Blue Star Ent.

    Blue Star Ent. Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    1,989
    Likes Received:
    31
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    160
    #6
    Joomla is doing fine. The security issues were taken care of. It is the most popular CMS for a good reason
     
    Blue Star Ent., Feb 6, 2009 IP
  7. internetmarketingiq

    internetmarketingiq Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    3,552
    Likes Received:
    70
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    165
    #7
    I use Joomla for a number of projects. For managing a medium size site and content I find it superior to Wordpress (Which I use much more frequently).

    Joomla has it's limitations for sure, but it's a better content managment system for static content and being able to manipulate data.

    I also find nearly all Wordpress Templates to be very plain and ordinary whereas I have found several Joomla designers that put out amazingly beautiful boxed work.

    So its difficult to generalize what is better, as it really depends on the project.

    Joomla needs commenting at the core level, and could certainly use an easy upgrade path.

    Both have a long way to go. I'd love to see Wordpress build the ability to turn off time/date stamps on a per post and global level.

    But it is definitely hard to complain about the cost of the software from a dollars out of pocket to get started perspective.
     
    internetmarketingiq, Feb 6, 2009 IP
  8. Mr Goldberg

    Mr Goldberg Banned

    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #8
    Wordpress cant be compared to Joomla..
    Wordpress is good for newbies and those who are not good at coding..
    But for developers and companies,Joomla still stands No.1.

    Wordpress is mainly for Blogs and small article websites..
    But Joomla can do everything and anything!!
     
    Mr Goldberg, Feb 7, 2009 IP
  9. dreadman

    dreadman Peon

    Messages:
    118
    Likes Received:
    0
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #9
    joomla is good with a lot of extensions. Is it perfect definately not still has a way to go .

    It also seems to attract hackers more than any other cms but maybe that is the price for its popularity you must give it to the security team at joomla they plug security holes quickly.
     
    dreadman, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  10. zaidis

    zaidis Peon

    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #10
    I have a decent amount of experience with Joomla, but only a day or two with Drupal. It was easier for me to Modify joomla's code, and I felt it was better organized, but that could be because I didn't take the time to understand Drupal's setup and Wordpress like it is mostly for blogging / articles.
     
    zaidis, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  11. Astroman

    Astroman Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,355
    Likes Received:
    71
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    135
    #11
    I agree with Mr Goldberg, I think Wordpress is good for amateurs/newbies who aren't doing anything too big or serious, and easy to use for small companies who want to tack on a blog to their website to try and get a few more visitors but don't have the undertsnading to tackle anything more complicated. Of course there are exceptions, but that's mostly how it's used from what I've seen.

    Joomla is for much larger projects and used by many more professionals than amateurs. You can use Joomla for simple stuff like a blog but if that's all you want to/can do then you're likely to wonder what the point of all the extra gubbins is.

    I don't have too much experiance with Drupal, though I did try it but could not get into it, but I see it as somewhere between the two - more powerful than Wordpress, more for grown-ups/professionals, but not quite as full on as Joomla.

    P.S. I find the new Joomla much cleaner and easier to use than the old one, makes a lot more sense if you give it a chance. Though I never really had problems with any of the older versions either.
     
    Astroman, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  12. jackio

    jackio Banned

    Messages:
    490
    Likes Received:
    8
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #12
    I use Joomla and Wordpress and the first one is far more professional than WP.
     
    jackio, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  13. Solid_Nuts

    Solid_Nuts Active Member

    Messages:
    886
    Likes Received:
    13
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    60
    #13
    almost all medium to large sites developed by a professional firm would prefer drupal over joomla any day, the only people using joomla are developer wannabes, but I believe things will start to change soon with the main site under full professional redesign and drupal 7 getting a UI overhaul.

    As for Wordpress, I hardly consider it a fully featured CMS as it lacks even the basics of a content management sytem, and most people would agree.
     
    Solid_Nuts, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  14. Mr Goldberg

    Mr Goldberg Banned

    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #14
    I dont think so about DRUPAL. We worked on DRUPAL for 1 year along with Joomla. But DRUPAL clients are so shit and requirements as well. DRUPAL just makes everything messed and it look s ugly..
    I never saw a good DRUPAL site also..

    While JOOMLA Rocks!! :D
     
    Mr Goldberg, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  15. WebHostingBucket

    WebHostingBucket Banned

    Messages:
    222
    Likes Received:
    3
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #15
    Joomla does not even have multi-categorization and subcategories.
     
    WebHostingBucket, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  16. mamaroach

    mamaroach Peon

    Messages:
    48
    Likes Received:
    1
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #16
    This is good issue, I wonder and concern about joomla security also. I'm developing a joomla site. DO you think it gonna make some problems to me If I use it as a core of site then integrate some customize software into it?
     
    mamaroach, Feb 8, 2009 IP
  17. Mr Goldberg

    Mr Goldberg Banned

    Messages:
    651
    Likes Received:
    5
    Best Answers:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    #17
    @ Mamaroach,

    Simpleey no problems will be there. But you have to take few security steps,so that ,you can make sure,that your site hack-free..
    There are many such stuffs to make your site hackproof..
    Let me know,if you need to know that..
    Thanks :)
     
    Mr Goldberg, Feb 8, 2009 IP