"just move on" is the dumbest, most arrogant phrase I hear. I got it when unjustly banned from Dmoz; I heard it when Chrylser was acquired and nearly destroyed by Daimler; and I see it now. This guy is doing the right thing by rationally trying to solve a problem, and he's taking his time to help us. I say good for him! and dugg his story.
Fortunately, lately i do not care so much about adsense because i found other ways of monetizing my sites, and ig g bans me i will just saythat they are looser and move further.
There're a lot of ways to monetize our sites. But they're not really related to adsense ban at all. Even you're not banned, you should use a mixture of them anyway. * Direct ads usually pay more than adsense does. You get paid monthly in full without cutting commission to advertising agent like Google. But you have to work in inventory and billing and need a merchant account to process credit cards. * If you have forum, you get paid sticking threads too. Easy money, but it's not automated. * Selling links through text-link-ads also pay good, but your site should have at least PR3 or good alexa rank to earn much more. * BidVertiser pays around 30% as much as adsense. It has all ads format that adsense has. You can control which ads are displayed and the PPC is shown to you, but it's semi-contextual. Ads are delivered by matching with your site category.
I will be digging this when I get home from work tonight. But on a side note, do you use bidvertiser? iv only heard bad things about them.
Let me enlighten you to the practicality of the business world, fka200, since you seem to have a very hard time understanding it: Adsense is a multi-BILLION DOLLAR CORPORATION. They aren't going to change their rules because some kid whose account got banned got a forum thread digged or dugged or bagged or whatever it is you wish to do to this thread. It is not about "throwing in the towel", it is about ACCEPTING what cannot be changed, and moving on to something better. There are always something better. This isn't the civil rights movement, my friend (please pay attention in school before you start drawing foolish analogies), this is simply business. COLD HARD BUSINESS. Please don't belittle the Civil Rights movement and the contributions of MLK by comparing it to someone losing their Adsense account. And now I shall allow you kids to continue this pointless crusade of yours, while I move on to the actual business of making money online.
I like the idea of manually filtering the clicks. And seems like that would be the most cost effective and efficient solution. Being a publisher, you take care of your website and filter the clicks that you think valid and discard others. It is not only saving resources on Google side but also helping advertisers.
It was a little early in the morning for me to be replying to threads; especially on a thread as serious as this one. I understand every point that you have made, but to me if the guy wants to try, why the hell not. I really don't think it will make a difference, but the point is to *at least* try. You never know what might happen. I believe that Google does have enough technology right now to protect honest publishers. At times stuff may go wrong, but with the right evidence and language you can get things done. Anyways, getting a bit off track. Still wish OP the best of luck.
Do you have the technology to determine what clicks are valid or not? Are you going to "gut feeling" each and every click you get? When are you going to find time to actually work on your website if you do this? What will determine a "good standing" publisher? What is to stop a crooked publisher from waiting the requisite amount of time and then attempt to click-fraud, thinking he will escape only with loss of earnings IF caught? Keep in mind that I think the publishers need to be given a few benefits as well, just that there are a whole lot of kinks to work out, definitely not a simple matter.
they really need to do something about the click fraud thing, everyday there are several honest publishers who get banned for no reason. dugg the post, hope they consider your account again.
A pageview with 10 ads clicks and then a few more pageviews with 50 ads clicks from the same browser + IP. Is that normal? These are invalid clicks. The point is to differentiate between click-fraud and clickbomb. Any publisher should be screen for clickfraud, but Google has to know that surge of 500 clicks is not click-fraud at all. Real click-fraudsters would never do that--they're using fool-proof ways to cheat, not this basic 500-click, come on. Right, If Google catches clickbomb in good-standing publishers, just refund to advertisers and don't punish. Google has defined "good standing" publisher already. It's a long-established publisher not recently flagged doing suspicious activities. Correct. But that's why Google is stuck for years without any significant improvement. It's from the fear of breaking things, screwing up advertisers, surprises and so on. But Google can test it on randomly-selected publishers in "beta". If it works, apply it. If it doesn't, throw it away or revise it. If you don't try it, you'll never know if it's perfect, imperfect, or just plain imbecile. If you think that not solving issues and stay whatever they are is risk-free, you're not on the point here. If Adsense keeps banning publishers, many others will be so paranoid that they have to try YPN or any similar program. What if eCPM is better? They'll switch. Maybe you define "switching" as risk-free for Google, but I believe it'd be "devastating" for them.
Cool, but you're now an ignorant. Hey, maybe you should be jailed for nothing. Maybe that would please you. My case is on a tip of iceberg. Many honest publishers have been banned, not just me, and it's going to be many more innocent publishers getting banned.
Why haven't more people Dugg this? This is more important than a lot of the crap that ends up on there...
38 diggs now. I guess most adsense publishers don't care while they're not banned. I should have rewritten this in a blog entry and resubmit to Digg with title like "Shocking News! Adsense Is Going To Collapse." Maybe this would catch some attention. Digg now to protect your adsense account!
yah, this kind of dilema... anyone who starts to use adsense actually think of this. what if someone just wanna my account banned?.. seems there's no effective solution yet..
It's a shame that Google cannot provide a solution for its publishers. Shame on billion-dollar company. I think we live too long under Adsense. Let's put some alternatives to the test. You could earn 1000% more money in an instant! JonhChow dot Com makes $10,000 a month from various sources, but Adsense accounts for only 10% of it. He uses BidVertiser, ReviewMe, DirectAds, Affiliates, Text-Links-Ads, Kontera and FeedBurner.
Not even a gardener from Google dare to show up and deal with this matter. Shame on Google and Adsense Engineers for the fact that they flag click bomb as click fraud committed by publisher and ban innocent publishers to save some headaches. Yeah I applaud these engineers' intelligence. I don't have any more problem with adsense, coz I'm making more money doing direct ads and affiliate commissions. It's 700% of that generated from adsense. The reason I'm here is because I feel insulted by these Google people and want every publisher at DP to know about it. Yeah you may be able to protect your own a**ccount.