John Edwards, raising taxes, and the media...

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by d16man, Feb 5, 2007.

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    So now John Edwards, who is so far behind in the polls its not even funny, has said that he will repeal Bush's taxes on those that make over $200,000. What is truly funny about this story though, is that despite the headline, despite the topic, the reporter turns the story into a story about Iraq and Hillary Clinton....is there no limit as to how much the media hates bush?

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    I didn't get that at all. It covered his positions on healthcare, and on the war in Iraq. What I read is "here's where I differ from [one] of my opponents":

     
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    d16man Well-Known Member

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    Thats my point, the subject always gets changed to the war on iraq...
     
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    I guess I consider this normal interviewing of a presidential candidate. Given the war looms large on everyone's mind, why shouldn't it be discussed in an interview on a given candidate's views?
     
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    I agree. It should be also be discussed when talking about:

    the death of a horse:
    http://www.gulf-times.com/site/topi...=131115&version=1&template_id=43&parent_id=19

    superbowl commercials:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/05/business/media/05adcol.html?_r=1&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin

    and pretty much anywhere you can stick it in :)
     
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    C'mon, now Lorien...

    Love him or hate him - he is a presidential candidate. Are we not to ask his position on Iraq?

    The war is on people's mind; and that's a good thing. Look at any newspaper clipping from any era of war in the U.S., and I'd venture you would find the same thing.
     
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    Didn't realize I said he couldn't talk about them. I think him putting his views out there are wonderful. Just making the side point, that its brought up no matter how obscure (or illogical) the connection.
     
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    OK, I understand. Rather than seeing an illogical connection, I think it indicates it weighs heavily enough to be included in any conversation.
     
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    Hehe.

    Weather report:

    It was raining outside today, much like the bombs are raining down on little kids in Iraq who just want to fly kites. Tomorrow's temperature: 64F, and possibly 64 soldiers blown up by an IED. Later this week, the weather will clear - just like the smoke over that hospital that was blown up yesterday.

    Yep. I see the point ;)
     
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    Hahah -

    Well, that's not what I see when I read the links you provide, Lorien.

    Do you think this is different from any other period of war, then?
     
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    It's pretty close. Come on:

    I know when they killed Barbaro, I was thinking - man, I wish the war Iraq would end in much the same fashion.

    Same here. I actually thought the guy said a "Roc" - and I immediately wanted to go play Dungeons and Dragons.

    It's laughable. Both of these "stories".

    And yes, I'd doubt that when a horse died during WW2 or Vietnam, the lead of the story was similar. Sometimes a horse is a horse and it dies without bringing up other current events.

    Imagine this when the challenger exploded. Think this would have been written?
    I think bias has become so commonplace that its expected and normal.
     
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    lol....that is awesome....tomorrow's forcast...sunny, and hot, like the bombs dropped on al qauda...
     
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    Well, Lorien, I'd have to get ahold of them, but while at U of M this last summer, I had the good fortune to read original sources - newspapers - from the 1860's. What I was astounded by, more than anything else, was how much they read as if they were from today. Writers and people drew similar parallels, then as they do now. Nothing new. I am trying to dig up WWII-era and Vietnam-era papers, as you've piqued my interest. But it seems normal to me, from what I have read elsewhere.
     
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    That's because the magnitude of it dwarfs that of every other subject.
     
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