Joel Comm fraud or real ?

Adsense TOS allow you to promote/encourage people to click on referrals because they are pay per action not pay per click there for the customer has to make there own choice weather or not they download/sign up etc for the product.....

Adsense for content are the no no's for encouraging.. referrals are fine to promote

 

Used to be suscribed to Joel's everything. Recently I got rid of all my subscriptions etc, he's complete bs.

 

Well it's wierd I just read this post as i'm watching Joe Comm speak right now on one of his 'Adsense Live' vids and he just got by the part where he shows everyone THAT picture that Shoemoney posted... n I randomly paused it n searched for Joel Comm n clicked here...

Anyway, I doubt Joel Comm is a fraud, if he was going to go to all that effort to make people think he was earning what he says he was i'm sure he wouldn't of made an obvious error like that.

I've watched a few of his vids on YouTube and he's a good speaker... the vids are only benneficial for beginners IMO they're just standard tips but he seems genuine to me.

But I do hate those lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng sales pages like he uses and alot of spammers use. They might be 'proven' to make more deals or whatever but I KNOW that anyone experienced with the web or anybody within Internet Marketing would look at that page and pass it off as tacky and spammy. Not even getting past the first line.

I think it would be far better to make a quality sales page, not long,long,long but just QUALITY with a basic summing up of the product.

Which is the exact reason I Havent' bought Joel's book but did on the other hand buy Aaron Wall's brilliant SEO ebook.
Anyone making that much money surely wouldn't need to make a tacky sales page, which relies on statistical data of sales ratio as aposed to pure quality and profile.

I'm not denying Joel earns what he says I just think he should create better sales pages and by better I mean quality. People appreciate honesty and quality these days. Long gone are the days where people could be tricked or physchologically conditioned via statistical proof on the web... n those that are will realise they've been manipulated so just create quality and cut the tacky spammy shit.

 

I think some are mistaken by thinking that people are getting smarter and will not fall for long sales pages with big read font and shinny pictures of a software box when all you get is a download. And also with those 7 ending prices, so fashion..

No, people will stay dumb and will fall for those many times in a row. There are many many more people who haven't yet started to be interested in earning money online than people somewhat successful in it.
So marketing yourself as the beginner helper, the guru who care about the newbies will allow him to sell much more $97 packages than other well known gurus aimed at professionnal people who will not fall for glossy sales pages but want quality.

 

he had me for a while there.

i posted this question in his forum for almost a month now and left unanswered.
http://www.adsensechat.com/showthread.php?t=7101

I guess his earnings took a nose dive.

 

You dont need to buy his book even if it sells at $1. There are a lot lying around for free.

 

Ever sense I started watching joel comm's video's on youtube my adsense income " 3 time the click though rate now". As far as learning stuff I think he's is 10 better then shoemoney all he does is blabs his mouth on how much money he makes. Shoemoney forum and his webmaster radio show suck for tips. I can say Seo Rockstars is a good one and Strikepoint love those ones.

 

That's what I like to hear!

I'll be releasing the 4th edition of my AdSense book soon and will probably update my stats on the page then. I'm still averaging about $800/day, though things seem to be picking up nicely lately.

Joel

 

As a supporter of Joel Comm, for the person, not for the products (although the book is recommended when you're a beginner or not really involved in adsense forums) I talked about him on my blog for the first time today:
http://blog-money-wiki.com/blog/2007/10/joel-comm-do-you-like-this-guy.php

And about Joel's adsense video on youtube, I group them along with other related videos to this adsense focused youtube group:
http://www.youtube.com/group/howtoadsense
I take only the videos focused on adsense, not general tips on making money online.

800$ a day with adsense is impressive since the core of your income must come from other things, multiple sources of course!

 

sounds tooooooooo easy for me

 

I have read Joel's Book "The Adsense Code". It was lent to me by Joel Christopher "the Masterlist Builder". It's really a good read if you're new to adsense. I believe Joel is real, his earnings is real and his advice is real.

 

Thanks people
for the good information.
Great forum!!!

 

lol good DIG.
Shoemoney thread
Too be honest I think Joel comm is just another Make money telling people how to make money kind of guy.
But Don't take it with grain of salt. But as any Make money with me kind of guy like John Chow. There just making money off You by telling you what to do, offering you advice becuase they got some edge and understand how adsense works.
Joel comms Videos

 

Has anyone tried to use the askjoelcomm.com ticket support service?. I have had a open ticket for over a week now and they have never responded.

 

No I never tried to use it, I don't know what to ask joel!! Maybe ask him if he would give me a million dollar for my startup?

 

When does this thing die.

 

Joel Comm had some good advice, but it wasn't anything earth-shattering IMO, and definitely not worth the money.

 

That's because that isn't my support site. It says on the site to use www.thehelpdesk.us

My support guy is traveling this week.. actually moving here to work in my office. But open a ticket there and he'll take care of you.

Joel

 

It's a myth LOL