Joeant get's slapped...

Yep Joeant is one of the latest victims of the Google bitch slap....I do not really understand why Joeant got slapped because they don't accept sites that Yahoo dir and Business.com typically will accept..why? The reason is simple politics....slap the little guy down in the ground even further then what they already are and let the big boys keeping getting away with whatever they want....I think if Joeant would've raised their prices for submission, did some "Ebay arbitrage shit" with Adwords and have a hefty ad budget they'd still be on the Good side of Google....heck don't know but what I do know is they got the shit slapped out of their business..........

 

I believe that all directories large enough to manipulate page rank intentionally or not are going to get nailed eventually. Small directories with few if any cached pages won’t be bothered with since they can’t manipulate page rank. JoeAnt is a fine directory, it’s a shame Google has gone so power crazy.

 

>>>I believe that all directories large enough to manipulate page rank intentionally

It is a myth that you can raise your Pagerank but having a large number of pages. It requires more Pagerank (Real or Visible) to get 100,000 pages spidered and into the Google index then the Real Pagerank of 1 that each new pages is given will contribuate to the site.

 

I never intentionally insinuated that having a large number of pages cached will raise the page rank but the sites listed on pages with page rank get a boost from it and that’s what Google wants to stop.

 

in terms of what ? PR ?

 

I also don't see a problem with joeant, still the same serps.
They shouldn't care about PR if that's not what they are selling.

 

i see no problems

 

I think gooogle wants to thin the competition, if it was about anything else you would expect SERP's to change not just page rank. I think gooogle is scared to let these penalties effect SERP's because then there would be legal standing for anti-trust.

 

Agreed, the lesser the interlinked pages the better the pagerank distribution.

 

they can impose penalties on the serps if they wanted to. The penalties are only affecting the pagerank to reduce the link selling. you can do nothing about it. The competition argument is not valid here, all directories combined won't make a 0.0001% of the google income, they are hurting their serps though...

 

Yep, I agree. It has made no noticeable difference at WoW and I was a bit surprised.

 

PR3 for a well established site like joeant is like a warning message from Google.

uncoverthenet.com is a also quality directory and banned and deindexed like forever

However there are always some story behind we don't know. It is hard to say.

 

Google is simply sending out a message knowing that in forums like this one the word will get out, hoping to discourage people from submitting to web directories to increase rankings.

 

Agreed its showing PR3 ..

Regardless ive had seen one off ours come back as PR2 earlier today so...
who knows , whatever

laterz
malcolm

 

So right. What is the saying... PR for vanity, SERPS for sanity. I've said it once and will say it again, the more people stop concerning themselves with PR and start concentrating on content, the weaker PR becomes as a selling point for Google. What people fail to realize is that Google actually need directories etc to value PR, if we don't it loses its kudos.

Take my word for it, if we all went silent on the matter and the constant posting about PR stopped it would be Google going 'WTF', not us.

 

Hmm, I'm not sure I follow that. Going with the general understanding that each new page on a site brings with it a real PageRank of 1, then it indeed seems likely that a large number of pages will help your home page's PR, IF...
1) you don't send too much of that away via outbound links to other websites, and...
2) your internal linking structure pushes your inner pages' PR "juice" towards the home page and a carefully selected (and limited) few other main pages.

EDIT: Re #1 above, I do realize that, by definition, directories have tons of outgoing links. But both #1 and #2, I believe, are definitely applicable to the broad range of websites in general.

 

We don't care about PR. Today 3, tomorrow 6, and next week 4.

Still more then 1.000.000 visitors each month find us.

Hugo

 

pr (at least the real one) is useful to their algorithm, I don't understand why they need it as a selling point? to download toolbars? I am sure only a tiny fraction of google users know what pr is.

 

Those who know what PageRank is plus few others are the submitters...or were...