Could't agree more, let your client's rankings speak for themselves. Their testimonials and the rankings they have achieved should bring in new clients and ensure they are repeat customers. -s.
I concur... even though, I have never been comfortable with the testimonials... The referrals are where it's at. That is the true result of a job well done.
I suppose it depends on your budget. They are keywords that I'd love to rank better on but when your running a business on a shoestring you have to spend time and learn SEO yourself. Even though I am sure they are many good SEO experts out there, I would always recommend anyone new in business to learn it themselves.. I've spent the last 3 years learning, and I still learn something new every day.
even you're full of money, you should learn enough about SEO. Or you will waste your money by picking wrong SEO service.
Here is my theory, those of us who have spent a LOT of time learning ourselves and then implementing and testing are the ones who are the experts. Most everyone here falls in that category. If someone were to contact you about optimizing their site, you would feel comfortable that you could do a solid job. The self taught people are always the one's who are leading the way, and that is what we are here...
NC, that's true. I think you would learn from other SEO companies mistakes, ie. guarantee's for top 10 rankings lol and making promises you could not meet - I was asked by a client to do some SEO work for them (I'm not a SEO expert - and it is my first SEO project), and I've basically said it'll be payment on results.. Im not desperate for the money, and I'd not want to ruin my reputation by taking money and not providing a good service.
WW, that is cool. Good luck on the job... I am sure you will do great. You have this resource. I always laugh because if there is one site I want my clients to stay away from, it's here
That "seo bitch" stuff is getting a bit tired, isn't it Bob? See http://www.seobook.com/ if you want to kick-start your reseach into SEO.
I'm not sure I need a kick start. Is SEO book different? I really don't want to buy a book that is just going to go over the same old stuff.
Simon, you asked for a recommendation on a book that contains some good information on SEO: I recommended SEObook: Now, you ask: The second part of your original post mentioned "some really good tips that I won't find trawling this forum". Given enough time spent reading this and a few other well-chosen forums and other articles available on the net -- along with a little trial and error, common sense, and the ability to differentiate between good advice and nonsense (there is also plenty of the latter in any forum) -- you will eventually learn what you need to learn. However, if you want to learn it all in a little less time and in a more concentrated form, have a look at Aaron Wall's book. You can perhaps judge for yourself whether he knows his stuff by reading his posts in various forums (either as Aaron Wall or as awall19) or his blog. Your choice.
Excellent Minstrel, That is what I'm after. I'll spend the next week trawling forums for Aaron's posts. Much appreciated. -s.
Hey Min, If you know Aaron, tell him to work on removing the 250+ validation errors from W3C. I know that W3C is not the be all and end all, but 250+ errors is excessive and well written code is one of the things he should talk about... Other than that, there was some good info there...
Don't waste your money. Spend some time around here, read, post questions, get involved. You'll soon learn more than anything jw has to offer.
Ok, I can't say I've read Jill's book although previously, it has been recommended to me. For a long time, Jill's was probably the best ebook around on SEO as it covered the whole 'white hat' seo stuff and it does it well, if perhaps not as detailed as some might like. I would have to say however, that personally, I would go for www.seobook.com. Aaron is forever updating it (if you bought it, you get the updates) and you get a bucketload of other stuff thrown in for good measure (spreadsheets of directories, etc.) So to my mind, the value of Seobook is that the information is always kept up to the minute as well as being quite thorough in coverage of seo.
No, I don't know him except through forums and articles, where he has impressed me. I don't think he claims to be a coder... whether those W3C errors will make a difference depends on what they were, of course (some of the things W3C calls "errors" work quite nicely and won't upset spiders one iota), but I have to admit it sounds like a lot.