Jews Stole Arab Land [The Truth]

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  1. Blogmaster

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    #21
    I really don't feel threatened by Islam, as I do not feel threatened by tweakers and crackheads coming out at night. The good people control them, but they still cause problems here and there.

    I am trying to explain to you that there are Muslim doctors and Christian doctors who will never agree on each others religions (or hogwash as I would call Islam, since it's not even a religion).

    So if a Muslim doctor and a Christian or Jewish doctor call each others idiots, whose side would you take? Or why even bring up their title in society? If you would pay attention to the bible, you might realize that in God's eyes those titles may not mean that much as in your world where you worship men for their accomplishments and do not give God credit for any of them.
     
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    #22
    Actually, contary to your claim, Islam is a religion.

    Definition of religion:

    an organized system of faith and worship

    Oxford dictionary definition (theistic): "1 the belief in a superhuman controlling power, esp. in a personal God or gods entitled to obedience and worship. 2 the expression of this in worship. 3 a particular system of faith and worship. ...

    a set of attitudes, beliefs, and practices pertaining to supernatural power.
     
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    #23
    I would tend to disagree with Blogmaster on this, saying this is too general a comment to be applied to 1.8 billion people who share the same religion but are spread throughout the world. Stereotyping does no one any good.

     
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    #24
    I cant agree either.
     
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    #25
    This two sentences sums up you mindset: if you don't agree with what I post you are abnormal, un-educated extreme pro-arabs and have mindset of a fool...

    Seriously, who you are trying to fool?

    So everything that is posted good about Jews and Israel is truth? :)
    Yeah, as I can see he posted tons of evidence to back up his claims...
    I'm sure that he can tells us how much land was owned by Jews in 1947. ? If they didn't stole anything I guess they owned most of it...
     
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    #26
    So everything that is posted bad about Jews and Israel is truth?

    Do you think all "Palestine" lands were stolen by Jews ?

    Do you think Jews deserve a country ?
     
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    #27
    Find me were I said anything like that

    Most of it. Jewish state owned like 5% of land before creation of Israel. As far as I know it owns now like 95% of land. Can you show me sources which says that Jewish state payed in full for land aquired since creation of Israel. Until you show me that I will keep claiming that Jewish state stole land.

    My people was countryless for like 1000 years so I know the feeling so my answer is yes but you can't make someone else suffer because of that.
     
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  8. Lemon116

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    #28

    Man youre so funny you should get paid for it, why are you working for free? :D

    Which finger do your suck your claims from? it gotta hurt already :p

    Flase, false and again false - Ouch, the information I provided above is 100% accurate.
     
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    #29
    Israel was originally the Jews homeland. It was theirs before THEY were kicked off of it and were displaced. Try to remember that Jews have been hated for a very long time. So they had their land "stolen" from them. In WW2 the Ottoman Empire lost. So they lost war. Palestine was part of that empire. So one could say they were part of the agressor. Israel was given land and became the Jewish homeland.

    Then to top things off Israel has been attacked. They have had wars started against them since then in which they have won the wars and gained more land. Once again they were not the agressor.

    Before the creation of Israel Palestinians were a group of nomadic people who had actually tried to get some land from several different neighboring nations. Seems to be a common theme with them.
     
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    #30
    Israel was not originally the Jews homeland, that was 2000 years ago, there were people living there, and the Jews invaded them, even Israelis themselves try to more depend on the 'Promised land' blame much more than on the historical claims,

    I do remember that Jews been hated for a long time in Europe, can you say the same about Arabian and Islamic countries?
     
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    #31
    I am sure you can do better than ridiculing, and discussing persons, not the real issue, you started your thread by copying and pasting an article from the Jewish library, I showed you how much inaccurate was the article, from also Israeli sources, you are broke, nothing left for you except to ridicule people, this tactic is much exposed now, and it proved its worthless, people will tend to believe facts that are supported with proofs rather than posts like the one quoted above, also, writing in bold and red, and large files, will not add to the creditability of the post, but will annoy readers.
     
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    #32
    Yeah, it's false because you said so. :rolleyes:
    Again, can you show me any evidence that you've paid for property (including land) of 700,000 Palestinians expelled from their homes?
    Until than I will call it as it is: stealing.

    He was already banned because of what he do. As I can see he won't last long this time too.
     
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    #33
    Jews are hated and envied, yet respected. Europeans do not respect Muslims. They do not even take them seriously. They use them to make Jews look bad. They talk the whole "We need to tolerate Islam" crap to feel better about themselves and to look less like Nazis or the arrogant dickheads so many Europeans are. What a shithole Europe is as a whole. No, not all Europeans and not all European countries suck, just some of the most important ones like France, Germany, Austria and such.

    So are you trying to blame Jews for the Holocaust now?
     
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    #34
    I for sure not interested in your emotions and feelings about Islam, Jews, Europeans, or else,

    was your question a reply to my question?

    "I do remember that Jews been hated for a long time in Europe, can you say the same about Arabian and Islamic countries?"
     
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    #35

    The Jewish Virtual Library is the most comprehensive online Jewish encyclopedia in the world, covering everything from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

    You are BSing with no proof, people do tend to believe facts - Thats why they believe the respected organization and its research and not an unknown forum user who enjoys spreading hate. :rolleyes:

    Hiding behind a computer monitor is not so smart, Jack

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    Narrow minded people annoy readers...
    Can you read between the lines? ;)

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    #36
    lets see if thats' true, from the article you pasted, note that ww1 started on 1914 and ended on 1918:

    "part of Palestine's land was owned by absentee landlords who lived in Cairo, Damascus and Beirut" without mentioning how big or small that part, it can be 0.01% and it can be 99%, I do not consider this comprehensive nor covering everything Ben-Gurion himself whom is quoted later in the article you pasted, stated that " Jews made up 12% of the total Palestinian population as of 1914. It's not only that the majority of the Jews in Palestine were not Zionists, but they were also not even citizens of the country since many had recently fled anti-Semitic Tsarist Russia." "The Jews in Their Land page 292"

    which means there were 88% Arabs ;) notice also that the 12% were mostly non-citizens but refugees from Russia. so contrary to what the article tries to make us think, that Palestine was empty, its clear that it was not.

    another Zionist "Israel Zangwill" said, and this time the date is 1905:

    "Palestine proper has already its inhabitants. The pashalik of Jerusalem is already twice as thickly populated as the United States, having fifty-two souls to the square mile, and not 25% of them Jews ..... [We] must be prepared either to drive out by the sword the [Arab] tribes in possession as our forefathers did or to grapple with the problem of a large alien population, mostly Mohammedan and accustomed for centuries to despise us." ("Righteous Victims" by Benny Morris, p. 140 & "Expulsion Of The Palestinians" by Tom Segev, p. 7-10)

    it also says "About 80 percent of the Palestinian Arabs were debt-ridden peasants, semi-nomads and Bedouins."

    thats not what Ahad Ha'Am says:

    "We abroad are used to believe the Eretz Yisrael is now almost totally desolate, a desert that is not sowed ..... But in truth that is not the case. Throughout the country it is difficult to find fields that are not sowed. Only sand dunes and stony mountains .... are not cultivated." (Righteous Victims, p. 42)

    add the above, to the fact that Jewish only owned 7% (only 44% of it were used for agriculture) of the land, so the rest is owned by the 88% Arabs, which means, Israel stole 93%, assuming that they purchased that 7%.


    and read the book a survey of Palestine its from the British Mandate, which says, that the citrus industry were very big before Israel was formed:

    The export of oranges was as follows: -

    Period Orange boxes exported*
    1908 - 1909 744,463
    1910 - 1911 869,850
    1912 - 1913 1,608,570
    1938 - 1939 16,000,000

    * A box of citrus on average contained 144 oranges.

    also, meet some Palestinians pre-1947 here:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjEBQ_bE7uA

    wow, I still have much more to say about this article, see how the very first few lines of that comprehensive-everything-covering are wrong! I have to go now, I will continue later about Ben-Gurion and his quotes ;) till then, feel free to post some cartoons.


    the question is not whether can I read between lines or not, the question is, can you read?
     
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    #37
    You have your source, I have mine - Again, it doesnt prove anything.

    Not only I can read, I also use a sensor to detect BS ;)

    Not this one, a newer version...

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    #38
    Sure, you want to tell me that you payed for property of 700,000 Palestinians you expelled from their homes... :rolleyes:
    Did your country payed for it like you did payed for Google traffic? :rolleyes:
    Or for Microsoft windows you have on your PC? :rolleyes:

    Nah, your country did pay for it and expect others to pay:
    Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_David_2000_Summit

    Should we set up an international fond to pay what you owe too? :rolleyes:
    Talking about hiding behind computer LMAO!
     
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    #39
    Read this and return to the thread as soon as youre done ...

    Click Here
     
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