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Jews and Christians Worship the Same God?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Vebtools, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Breeze Wood

    Breeze Wood Peon

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    #61

    Your post is purely conjecture without any factual basis - your lack of religious objectivity is your decision and one for you to live by.


    The Edenist congregation goes so far as to believe with others the origins of the universe with man and the resulting dismissal from the Garden of Eden and choses that Gods sole commandment to man is to seek redemption for their dismissal for readmittance into the Garden of Eden for there to be a continuance in the pursuit of everlasting life - of which the way to heaven is but one of many paths....The short story.

    The Garden we live in is the source for the answers being sought (rather than text) and for some easily found however for there to be redemption involves all of mankind and assuaging all of mankind to become Edenist proves difficult if not impossible but is the requirement - - The final judgment will occur when only one Church remains.

    In short: the texts of the bible, qurran etc. are not independent to the religion but have been altered to give judgments about societies and roles to be followed (Islamic - Vatican, laws) that should be found in the Garden, truly of God, than relied upon by mortals that themselves are seeking / require redemption.
     
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  2. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #62
    Oh so it is actually specifically the garden of Eden, from the bible. The bible written supposedly by the "false god". And you still think my point is conjecture? Even though you prove my point every time you post? Hillarious stuff. It would be funny if I wasn't embrarrased by the ritual humiliation you out yourself through.

    I mean, you litterally are making it up as you go along.
     
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  3. Breeze Wood

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    #63
    As a religious courtesy and kinship to other believers - STX, the expulsion should have been your specific "feud" that is anything but compelling.....God is the Garden and everlasting pursuits are possible through accomplishments.
     
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  4. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    #64
    Based on what? At least christians have an old book to "back up" what they say. You seem to have nothing but your imagination.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #65
    Every night when I take my dog out for a walk, she shits in the garden, does this mean she shits on your God? :rolleyes::D
     
    gworld, Feb 11, 2010 IP
  6. Breeze Wood

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    #66
    The issue began as relying on text than the physical presence for answers. - - gworld - The Garden encompasses the universe.
     
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    #67
    And so the most original religion of the three is Judaism. Islam and Christianity basically plagiarized the Jewish books.
     
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  8. bfebrian

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    #68
    which part? ever read quran? bible?
    i read bible, and very different with quran.
    di not read torah yet, can't find it in local store, maybe i look in the wrong place, maybe i should look for it next to harry potter book or adult section?
     
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  9. bfebrian

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    #69
    to honor your god, your believe, i will never let my 4 years son to pee under the tree in the garden, that will make your god mad.
     
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  10. Blogmaster

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    #70
    You're in Indonesia. If they sold the Torah in a regular store, the store would burn down within a day.
     
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  11. bfebrian

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    #71
    and how you know it? you you read crystal ball or something? can you predict the future? are you some kind of freak that can read people minds?
     
    bfebrian, Feb 11, 2010 IP
  12. Breeze Wood

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    #72
    You and gworld must be related - Disrespecting the Garden with your child is the origin of your expulsion, lots of luck. gworld is just a jerck.
     
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    #73
    It is fairly simple-
    Jews believe in god, they were the chosen people, chosen by god, christians were in fact, jews.
    Christians became Christians after the death of Jesus, they believed the jews killed Jesus, and they formed a new religion saying that Jesus was the massiah, Jesus in fact is Jewish.
    So basically, Jews believe Jesus was just a person, Christians believe that Jesus is the son of god.
    And yes, it's the same god for Jews, Christians and Muslims.

    That's about it o.o
     
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  14. stOx

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    #74
    Where does your god want us to urinate and defecate? You apparently have a direct line to him, or can at least read his mind, so could you let us know. :rolleyes:
     
    stOx, Feb 12, 2010 IP
  15. debunked

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    #75
    In what ways is the god of islam the same as God who is worshipped by Jews and Christians?
    (seriously - make a list of the similarities and differences)
     
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  16. imad

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    #76
    This list been done before, here it is:

    God's Role in the three:

    "Creation of the Universe and management of its existence."

    Literal Meaning of the Word "God"

    Judaism: The Hebrew word translated as "God" is "Elohim", which is the plural of the word "eloah" - "god". The use of the plural in this case has the effect of magnifying the basic root meaning of the word to suggest superior greatness - "god of gods", or the "greatest god".

    Christianity: In most European languages "God, the Creator" is distinguished from "god, an object of worship" by capitalization of the initial letter. In European translations of the Bible "God" is the translation of the Hebrew "Elohim". In Arabic translations of the Bible "Elohim" is translated as "Allah".

    Islam: The word "Allah" is the Arabic equivalent to the Hebrew word "Elohim". It has the same root "Alef-Lam-Ha" and is the grammatical form of superiority - "god" is "ilah", "God" is "Allah". Contrary to the common misconception among European, American and Australian Christians the word "Allah" is not the name of some special "Muslim Deity". It is just the Arabic word for God, and it is used as such not only by Muslims, but by Arabic speaking Jews and Christians, and it was used in that way long before the emergence of Islam.

    Number of Gods:

    Judaism: One.

    Christianity: One in three, and three in one: God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost; the One being all the three joined together into the Holy Trinity.

    This doctrine was proclaimed not by Jesus himself, but by the Christian thinkers who established the Christian religion after Jesus disappeared.

    Islam: One.

    God's Image:

    Judaism: Not known

    Christianity: God the Father has the image of an old man, God the Son is Jesus Christ (a man) raised to Heaven, and the Holy Ghost is represented as Archangel Gabriel, a man with wings.

    Also some Christians consider that Jesus is not only the Son of God, but is God himself.

    This doctrine was proclaimed not by Jesus himself, but by the Christian thinkers who established the Christian religion after Jesus disappeared.

    Islam: God has no image.

    God's Place of Abode

    Judaism: Unknown.

    Christianity: In Heaven.

    Islam: Everywhere (his power, seeing, hearing can reach everywhere, not a physical existence since God existed before the place which is one of his creatures)

    God's Family

    Judaism: Not applicable.

    Christianity: The Holy Trinity + the Blessed Virgin Mary (The Mother of Jesus Christ).

    This doctrine was proclaimed not by Jesus himself, but by the Christian thinkers who established the Christian religion after Jesus disappeared.

    Islam: Not applicable.

    God's Ethnicity

    Judaism: The God of the People Israel.

    Abraham was the one to proclaim the Oneness of God.

    He was also the common ancestor of both the Jews and the Arabs. The Jews descended from Isaac son of Abraham, and the Arabs, from Ishmael son of Abraham.

    One of Isaac's sons, Jacob, whose nickname was Israel, had 12 sons from whom descended the 12 tribes of the Children of Israel (Jacob).

    So the idea that the One and Only God is the God of the People of Israel, rather than the God of the Universe, could not have come from Abraham himself, but was introduced at a later time, at least after the descendants of Abraham's grandson Jacob (Ya'qov or Ya'qub), became tribes known as the Children of Israel (bne Yisrael or bani Isra'il). And in the world of that time, when different tribes and nations had many different gods, it would have been natural for other people to talk of the God of the Israelites, as distinct from their own gods.

    Christianity: No restriction.

    Islam: No restriction.

    source and more similarities differences
     
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  17. Breeze Wood

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    #77
    - so could you let us know.

    Lets just say your mindset is the same as the others.
     
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    #78
    Do you not know? You apparently know that god doesn't want us pissing up his trees, so it would be handy if you could tell us, specifically, where I'm allowed to drop a massive steaming log in this supposed garden.

    can't you just do what you done with the rest of your "belief"? i.e, make something up on the fly? :rolleyes:

    It's quite important, apparently. You seem to know that gworld letting his son piss up a tree is the "origin of your expulsion", so i think with your personally revealed knowledge of where the magic sky man wants us to piss and shit it would be best if you share it.

    So again, where does god want me to shit?
     
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  19. Blogmaster

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    #79
    Completely wrong and all based on man made
    (Illuminati driven Michelangelo) painting and nonsense created by Vatican artists.

    John 4 24 For God is Spirit, so those who worship him must worship in spirit and in truth.”

    I don't care how many Christians believe in what paintings and interpretations are out there.

    The Bible counts. Not the artwork in the 16th chapel.


    And let's lay off of Islam for a bit here and use another example:

    Mormons have all sorts of stories about the Garden of Eden actually being in Missouri etc. And they have added a lot to the Bible. Now tell me, at what point would you say that they still worship the same god?

    Now look at Islam and compare.
     
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    #80
    "God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27).

    maybe the bible created by illuminati as well
     
    bfebrian, Feb 12, 2010 IP