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jesus will come back or not?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by wilsontom, Oct 12, 2010.

  1. Priki

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    Priki, Dec 27, 2015 IP
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    #122
    Dude, please before your continue with your short replies, give me some evidence or facts about your opinion!
     
    Priki, Dec 27, 2015 IP
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    #123
    They're links, directly to evidence 'dude'. Try clicking on them.
     
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    #124
    I will not even bother to read this...i can post such posts but are they authentic ?
    whats the real time source ?
    This post cannot be cross questioned hence doesn't make sense to me but what i have given can be questioned and it has shown many facts attached to it .
     
    garry420, Dec 28, 2015 IP
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    That is the main problem with the society. People think that they shouldn't read because they already know the truth... Bravo!

    Please, share something that you think has a strong background. :)
     
    Priki, Dec 29, 2015 IP
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    wasn't that enough ?
     
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    #127
    This is the way of how you are debating with people: wasn't that enough ?

    Just a few words without backup?
     
    Priki, Jan 5, 2016 IP
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    #128
    I'm back. Anybody called me?
     
    showgun, Jan 5, 2016 IP
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    Really?

    Are you are the chosen mortal who have to save this planet from a massive destruction? :) May I have your contact just to be sure that you really telling the truth? :D
     
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    I am don't know what percentage of christians believe in Jesus(pbuh)' coming back, but as a muslim, i can say that all the muslims are certain that he will come back in the last times.
     
    mrforum, Sep 16, 2016 IP
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    #131
    Majority of Muslims, yes, but not all. Majority of Muslims started believing in such things (Second coming of Jesus, Anti Christ, etc..) when they started conquering Christian nations and ideas became mixed, same way that much of Pagan rituals are still performed under the name of Islam.
     
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    I said all muslims based on the logic that it's compulsory to believe in the second coming of the Jesus(pbuh) according to islamic faith. As you say if someone don't believe this and perform pagan rituals then it means they are not under the circle of Islam.
     
    mrforum, Sep 16, 2016 IP
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    It is not compulsory. You can not provide one authentic source of such claim (authentic meaning the Quran and/or Mutawater Hadith). All such claims are Hadiths which could have been fabricated (Sahih, Mursal, Motaqati, etc..).

    Many Muslims do Pagan rituals and still believe they are in the circle of Islam, then again, you are probably one of those who are judge and executioners when it comes to the my way or the highway (from your statement that if they do Pagan ritual they are outside the circle of Islam).
     
    Barti1987, Sep 17, 2016 IP
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    I am not sure about the authenticity of the message which talks about the second coming, it may not be compulsory if there is no authentic source.
    For the pagan rituals, i said they are outside the circle of Islam because of the involvement of 'shirk' in most of those traditional beliefs practiced. So simply it depends on the actual ritual and their very beliefs, simply put, if they have pure 'towheed' they are inside islam, otherwise outside islam. Towheed is the key in Islam.
     
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    It is Authentic, but in regards to the Quranic Ayah it depends on who's translation you take. Some say it talks about Jesus PBUH some say it was about the Quran (which makes more sense I think).

    As for the Haidth's they are indeed authentic from their sources, but none which are in the level of Yaqeen (certainty) as the Quran and Hadith Motwater are (meaning there is 100% certainty the Prophet PBUH said it).
     
    Barti1987, Sep 18, 2016 IP