Luke 6:40 (KJV) 40 The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master. The perfection here means a spiritual one. What the verse is saying is that knowledge is not what matters! The teacher or master is higher in knowledge than his student. But the student can be as high as his teacher, or even higher, by being a true 'MUSHLAM' or Muslim, a spiritually perfect and well-disciplined person! "Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she'MUSHLAM yihyeh k'rabbo." The Arabic word "baseera", which is what is falsely translated for "MUSHLAM" by the deceiving polytheist trinitarian pagans from the Arabic translators, actually means "having spiritual knowledge or discipline"! Even in their twisted translation, the word clearly is used for spiritual discipline and not just technical knowledge of our worldly knowledge today such as Science or Mathematics or anything else. In other words: 1 My math teacher can be more knowledgeable than me in math, but with my baseera (being a very good Muslim that is), I can be an equal or even better person than him or her!! 2 My master, if I were a slave, can be higher than me in authority and worldly reputation, but with my baseera (with my Islam), I can be an equal or even better person than him!! Even their wrong word clearly supports Islam, because the verse is crystal clear in Aramaic!! The most accurate and honest translation for the Aramaic Mushlam is none other than the Arabic Muslim, which means Believer! "Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she'MUSHLAM yihyeh k'rabbo." Translation in English: "No student can be above his teacher, but everyone that is a MUSLIM, can be as his teacher." http://answering-christianity.com/luke6_40.htm
Nice site you use as a source there: 9/11: The biggest lie in history! Watch these videos from White-Americans (not Arab-Muslims) proving that the Pentagon bombing was done by a Global Hawk drone! No bodies and no airplane-debris were found! Also, no noise was either recorded or detected by any ordinary person! Is the US being a "Jesus Christ" or a Zionist dog? Did the US really liberate Iraq for the sake of installing freedom to the Iraqi people, or is this some cheap advertisement that they easily fool the ridiculously unlearned American people with? Did George Bush really liberate Iraq to help the weakest and the poorest as Jesus Christ would've done without expecting anything in return? Or is the Zionist George Bush setting up the stage for Israel's expansion and domination in the region? Why is one of Ariel Sharon's closest friends, the Jewish and Zionist American Lieutenant General Jay Garner, going to rule Iraq? Since when do foreigners run other countries if you are not going to call this COLONIZATION??!! And why is the US going to build oil pipes that go from Iraqi oil-rich city, Kirkuk, to Israel? Is a future invasion of Syria a reason for this; to pass the pipe lines through its lands? You bet it is! And why does Iraq all of the sudden owe the United States 600 billion US dollars as a cost to the "liberation" of Iraq? Did the war really cost that much, or is this the American way to suck up all of the Iraqi oil for free for the next 100 years? I don't think I really need to elaborate any further, because I don't expect from Americans, who are too busy mastering sex and worshiping money, to really understand anything any more. But let me make this short and simple to all of the so-called "innocent" Americans: Don't cry and wine when the next 9/11 attack becomes a Nuclear one.
I went to the grocery store to day and bought some Muslims. "MUSHLAM" sure does sound an awful lot like "Mushroom" so if "Mushlam" is Muslim then so are mushrooms. You're delicious! The word of the day is "homonym" What does your thread have to do with anything? You twist the meaning of a verse and then play word games to try to prove something.
It did. Muslims are just desperate to try to get some legitimacy so they play word games with the Bible to try to find anything Islamic in it. They want to reject the Bible as corrupt but then want to try to convince people that the Bible talks about Muslims. It's corrupt but it legitimizes their religion. Uh, no. It doesn't matter if "Muslim" means believer. So does "Christian." You can't take a definition and then say he said a specific word. Jesus did not say "Muslim." He said "perfected." Islam traces it's roots back to Ishmael. The rejected son of Abraham. When God told Abraham to kill his only son Isaac, Ishmael had already been born. Even God didn't recognize Ishmael as Abraham's son. And now Muslims want to claim that they are God's chosen people. When clearly God has rejected them. Jesus' ancestors go through Isaac. All the important people in the OT came from Isaac. Muhammad's ancestors go through Ishmael. This is why Muslims have always resented the Jews and want them dead. The Jews are God's chosen people (the NT even reiterates it), not the Muslims. Part of the whole Muslim myth is making Ishmael out to be the chosen son. It's the same issue that Cain had with Abel. You can just look at all the hate and rage (the iconic "Rage Boy" for example) that fills many Muslims in the middle east to see how far God has removed himself from them. They can't even look at a silly cartoon without hate filling them. Even supposed "moderate" Muslims on this forum get filled with hate over stupid things. You can mock Christianity all you want on this forum but if you post a picture of a Koran in a toilet you'll get a demerit. Muslims want to use the Bible to try to prove their religion but you can't even bring a Bible to Saudi Arabia or any other Islamic country. You can be put to death for using the Bible. Muhammad prophecied that Muslims would get around a wine ban by using a different word for wine. Muhammad banned images of himself but apparently that little word game doesn't work when you use "cartoons" to depict Muhammad rather than "images."
Muslims believe, the religion of God, which we call Islam, started when Prophet Adam came to this Planet. It has continued, and many prophets were sent, for every country, for every tribe, for every race. Some names are mentioned, which include Abraham, Noah, Solomon, Moses, Jesus Chris, and many many others... Islam basically means -- "Submitting your Will to God". When taken literally, Islam was already present in ancient times, but in other forms. And now about this controversy, - Are the words "Muslim" mentioned in the Bible? When you take the literal meaning of the word "Muslim", then yes, it is written. Muslim means "Believer" Technically, anyone who believes in One God, is called a believer, i. e. Muslim "Ein talmeed na'leh 'al rabbo; shekken kal adam she'MUSHLAM yihyeh k'rabbo." The disciple is not above his (spiritual) master: but every one that is perfect(believer; submits his will to God) shall be as his master.
No, the word for believer is Croyant,Gelovige,Gläubige,Πιστευοντας,Credente, etc Since Muslims reject Jesus then obviously he wasn't talking about Muslim believers. He was talking about people who believe in Christ. Why would just tell people to be Muslim when Muslims reject him? Especially since Jesus said you'd go to hell if you reject him. Therefore you're trying to convince us all that Jesus told people to go to hell. I always thought Islam meant "peace"
What is with his "chosen son" and "chosen people"? How can God, the creator of all, who created man from a single drop of blood, who teaches men that they know nt, be biased, as to "choose" a certain group of people over others? Kalvin says God rejected Ismeel? And why would God do that? God gives life, isn't it? If Ismeel was rejected, the why was he born? Why would God send all messengers only for teh Jews? What about Africans? What about Latinos? What about Indians? What about the Far East? Why not send a few prophets among Romans and Huns and Celtic people too? This concept that God choose a race of people over others, is in itself a bigoted, racist concept. The Holy Quran does not say any group of people has been chosen. God has said, Man is Ashrufal-Maklukat - The Best Creation. And God does not discriminate...
God sent his prophets all over the world. I see you're proving my point again. You reject the Bible but want to find "Muslim" in it. The Bible is very clear that the Jews were God's chosen people. He instructed them to scatter and spread God's word. The Bible is very clear that God rejected Ishmael as Abraham's son. God wants everyone to be saved so he picked a group of people that would be responsible for spreading the message to everyone else. Just like Jesus picked 12 people to start. To this day Muslims still try to murder the messengers. Muslim: مسلم Believer: مؤمن Not the same word at all. And yet there it is clearly written in the OT, the Torah. The very book you're trying to use to legitimize your religion. God chose a people to be responsible for making sure everyone else got the message. God would be a racist if he refused entry to heaven just because you weren't of Jewish ancestry. God is not a racist for using a specific group of people to demonstrate his power to bring other peoples to faith in Him.
I think Jesus made it very clear what he thinks of people who claim Abraham is their father but reject him. Muslims claim Abraham is their father (which is true) but reject Christ. Do you believe the Jesus died on the cross to save you from your sins and rose again on the third day?
You are talking about an event there. Had he died elsehow would you not believe in him? Dieing on cross is not what validates righteousness of Jesus' prophecy, it's being sent by God, and that's what Muslims also believe. Muslims not believing your form of understanding of Christ does not mean they reject him.