Jesus praying for Muslims in the Bible!

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Ahmad_Malik, Jun 27, 2007.

  1. grandad

    grandad Peon

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    #261
    Yes, that maybe how you feel Ahmad, but surely in the Islamic Faith the Mullahs are appointed as Leaders and Teachers aren't they -don't they serve in the Madrassas and preach to the 'faithful' in the Mosques?
    Are they above censorship then Ahmad, so that they can preach hate and violence?
    Are they then not accountable to the faith?
     
    grandad, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  2. Ahmad_Malik

    Ahmad_Malik Peon

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    #262
    Such things are a minority and you get to see them magnified by the media today.
    I know several Madrassas around me. And they are doing quite a noble job.
    The censorship is controlled by people. And the one in charge will be accountable to God for any injustice.
     
    Ahmad_Malik, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  3. grandad

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    #263

    I see, so Islam does not actually condemn or remove any of their religious leaders who preach hatred and violence, it just leaves things to God.
     
    grandad, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  4. Ahmad_Malik

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    #264
    *Sigh*
    Why are you constantly blaming Islam for that?! :confused:
    And Muslims are doing a lot against such Mullahs too. A few days ago, the Pakistani military operated against such a Madarassa and the guy in charge got killed. And his brother is facing about 50 cases of terrorism and murder.
    I'm saying that even if someone escapes justice in this world, God will do justice in the Hereafter!
     
    Ahmad_Malik, Jul 13, 2007 IP
  5. grandad

    grandad Peon

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    #265
    Well as Jesus said:-
    If Islam wanted to separate itself from these people is strikes me that they could easily do so and the fact that they don't means that they associate with their views; as Paul said at 1 Corinthians 5:13, " Purge the evil person from among you."

    My view is that it is a shame that it was necessary for the military to deal with these people, it is my view that it should be the responsibility of the Islamic faith to remove them; I understand that you don't share that view.

    Of course, but is it not necessary for us to disassociate ourselves from evil and people who practice or incite others to commit evil acts?
    Is it not even more so when that person professes to be of our faith?
     
    grandad, Jul 13, 2007 IP
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    #266
    What do Christians do when people say that the nazis claim Christianity?
    They voice that it is not true and back it up with how nazis do not follow Christ's teaching, hence they are not Christian and how nazis believe only parts of the Bible and say the rest was rewritten by Jews. (Boy, does that sound familiar)

    SO grandad is right in saying if they don't voice opposition to the teachings, then it seems obvious they agree with the teachings.
     
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  7. Ahmad_Malik

    Ahmad_Malik Peon

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    #267
    Jesus was right. There were many false prophets appearing just after Prophet Muhammad pbuh. Namely Musailama Kazaab, Tuwaila bin Khuwaild, Aswad Ansi, Sajjah (was a female who later accepted Islam) and Ghulam Ahmed Qadiani, etc. But all of them perished. Except for the Ahmed Qadiani guy who still has some followers in Pakistan.

    And its not like that people have same views and want them to continue. For those who allow them to continue, they are also evil.

    The military wasn't the first one! For six months people tried to dialogue with them! Including the respected Imam of Kaabah!

    You know what, Yusus Estes says the same things. He says that the impression Islam has today, we as Muslims are to blame for this. Because we have gone away from its teachings. I can only adhere strongly to Islam's teachings personally, for the rest, I can just pray.
     
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    godislove, Aug 13, 2007 IP