As expected, Mia comes prancing in gutlessly to join with Guerilla in the final shredding of what small credibility he once had. When a mad dash of red reps, attempts to get me banned aren't enough, fuck it, I guess, and abandon all semblance of honor because someone just got really, really stung over being called on his bigoted smears against Obama. Good god, a mere two months ago, it was: http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=7827560&postcount=465 http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showpost.php?p=7800443&postcount=446 And now, because we've got two, very, very small people, we have a momentary marriage of gutter-based convenience. Gotta say, to see a self-proclaimed neo-conservative join with Guerilla in trashing American servicepeople, and to name my obvious deep feelings over a worthless fuck characterizing my late brother as a "war criminal and murderer," with continued taunts after, as an "attack" on that worthless fuck, is astoundingly sad, even for Mia. Particularly when his mouth has been among the freest in attacking anyone who does not fit within a very, very narrow perspective, it is patently obvious; he does this because Mia's little feelings got hurt because he can't make a cogent point to save his life (or speak English, apparently - at least as it is normally sung in a "quire," Jeremy's "English minor" notwithstanding), and can't seem to stand tall on points he has made. Poor, lost little Jeremy. Maybe you and guerilla can continue your mutual hugs, now that you've both been "really, really hurt." Let me just put it to the community: If, in an effort to "score" some points on DP, your family member, recently deceased, was named as a murderer and a war criminal, simply because they were a veteran in modern America, how would you feel? If another member posts what many of us feel - that irrespective of a given policy, the vets who serve are not to be held up for shame, a member equates all vets now serving to the SS/nazi soldiers of Auschwitz, how would you feel? As a vet? As someone with a loved one as a vet, or was a vet? With friends as vets? As a goddamned human being? If you responded, and a poster said you were exploiting the death of your loved one for "effect" in winning some fucking points on DP, how would you feel? If that member lied, intimating your grief was a subject for derision and scornful laughter among members, who "forwarded on Pms" to him for "massive lolz" - specifically, lying in naming Wisdomtool and Grim as the betrayers of confidences - how would you feel? If someone like Mia leaped onto the thread to go to bed with the member on precisely this issue, simply because he's stinging from another issue, and he's hopeful it will "hurt," how would you feel? Anybody beyond Wisdomtool, Grim, Lightless, LogicFlux, earthfaze, ncz_nate - anyone care to speak honestly to this?
So we should not ignore the person who attacks others' family members as murderers just because they were soldiers, but we should ignore the people on the receiving end of the attack? That's silly.
There is a lot of name calling and stuff said that should not be. The insults fly because of the safety net of the computer. Those same insults that fly would never be said in a face to face confrontation. Go back and read different threads and you will surely see that people just spew absurd thoughts just to get a rise out of people. The stuff that was said about your family member was over the line and was not ignored by anyone. Each of us should police our own words and watch the name calling and insults. All the soldier bashing and reference to Nazis and the uplifting of terrorists would never be said to my face, your face or any veteran. Those insane conspiracy theories and reference is just for a rise or just plain ignorance. Like I said before, Most of the folks that post the absurd content would not last 24hrs in a war zone and would begging for the help of the military. Do not cross the line, each of know when the limits have been pushed.
I agree, Homebiz. Although in my case, regretfully, there is nothing I've said in this issue that I wouldn't say face to face, and wish to say, face to face, with either Guerilla (who decided my loss, and my grief because of it, was to be a source of petty, sick pleasure), or Mia (who joined him in their mutually macabre, and very twisted, circle of joy). This came up previously, and I mirrored your sentiments - what I would call "web rangers," people speaking bravely behind the safety of the keyboard when they wouldn't dare do so in person. At that point, guerilla puffed up his chest and made a pretense to "proving his courage" by asking for a meeting in person. I laughed it off then, as the notion of my kicking someone's ass over a political issue on DP was ludicrous, to me. But as I've said here, I'm not laughing now and would very much like the opportunity to discuss in person. So far, despite his earlier protestations, guerilla has remained curiously quiet on my acceptance of his request.
To all: I'm sorry I haven't been able to exercise self control and good judgment when participating in arguments, and allowing my personal shenanigans to overrun P&R. I'm going to take at least a few months off, it may be permanent, right now I just know that I need to get away from this forum for awhile. If you would like to contact me, please email me through my profile. I will be turning PMs off as I won't be able to reply. Best wishes to everyone.
That was big step saying "I'm sorry" I think we all lack self control and good judgment when participating in arguments. Regards