hey well ive used some java script which will basically print the menu name u are hovering over below the navigation here is the website that i have done it over if u hover over the navigation drop downs u wil see what i mean. http://www.weblayoutsrus.com/clere/?pg=handbag_charm here is the javascript i used for this. <script language="JavaScript" src="overlib_mini.js"></script> <SCRIPT> StartMenuAt='products'; // The english version of the menu you want to start with. Use only LOWERCASE. ourText= new Array(2); function changeContent(what,text) { if (browse=='ie') eval(what).innerHTML = text; if (browse=='net') { with (document[what].document) { open(); write(text); close(); } } if (browse=='dom') document.getElementById(what).innerHTML = text; } function cleartext() { changeContent('themaintext',''); } function settext(wich) { changeContent('themaintext',ourText[wich]); } ourText[0]=' '; ourText[1]=' '; ourText[2]='Pen Sets '; ourText[3]='Stationery Sets '; ourText[4]='Slimeline Pens '; ourText[5]='Pens '; ourText[6]='Crystal Collection '; ourText[7]='Multi Pen Packs '; ourText[8]='Boxed Pens '; ourText[9]='Leather Pens '; </script> Code (markup): and then i simply added in this html for it to work into my main body of the page. <div align="justify" class="straplines" name="themaintext" id="themaintext"> this works great when you hover over a tab, but if you dont then it doesnt tell u know the current page you are on, is there a way i can add in some javascript into the html which is going to be the default text unless they hover over the navigation.