javascript framework

Was that the one that is behind a login, but he posted admin:admin as the login defeating the purpose of having a login?

I've got to say that this:
http://arto8.site88.net/

buggy broken incompetent train wreck of whiskey tango foxtrot is spitting distance from
https://www.theworldsworstwebsiteever.com/

But that goes back to my initial post in this thread a year ago, where it is painfully obvious that they

Honestly, I can't figure out what any of their crap scripting is supposed to do; worse I can't even figure out what they're doing on ANY of their pages to warrant the use of JavaScript in the first huffing place! Another stunning example of JS for nothing and your scripts for free. That ain't workin', that's not how you do it.

 

Critics who, in addition to criticism, want to understand what has been done here, let them try to do what they see with the framework they know. Then let them throw a link here, I'll take a look.

 

To be more specific. It is enough to prepare the grid/table with all its functionality. Then you will not do it for me, but you will use it for yourself. Just in case you did, please show it to me by posting a link here. I'm waiting

 

This framework has great potential for development. But I have frozen until God opens one's mind to understand this.

 

Now, now... let's be fair. Their belief in the halfwitted ignorant fairy tale about a cruel, capricious, vain genocidal sky wizard explains a lot about their gullibility. Since once you believe that type of gibberish, the kid gloves come off on the amount of manure they'll yum up like it was chocolate soft-serve.

Like the lie that frameworks do anyone any favors. It's not as big a whopper and certainly not as much of a mental illness as religion, but it's right up there.

Also telling they felt the need to bump a two month old thread just to go full faithtard, when none of the links to said project even work anymore.

 

Once again -- sorry to tell you this -- it is painfully apparent you don't know enough HTML to be playing with JavaScript yet. Worse, your HTML practices aren't just nonsensical gibberish and/or invalid, you're 20+ years out of date.

You even proudly declare it on the first lines of all your sites. XHTML 1.0 Transitional, which quite literally means "in transition from 1997 to 1998 development practices".

Like that "test service about us" page with such gems of "I don't know HTML" as:

<p>
					To view and modify all the tests data prepared by this user, go to <a href="tests.html?testUser=1" target="_blank">Tests</a> link.
					For experimental user access:
					<table>
						<tr>
							<td>Login</td><td>admin</td>
						</tr>
						<tr>
							<td>Password</td><td>admin</td>
						</tr>
					</table>
					The service users are test takers and testers.
				</p>

Code (markup):

Table is NOT a valid child of a paragraph, because tabular data is not a grammatical paragraph. Much less you have row headings and data, so why are they markup up just as data?

The same for the gibberish broken "scripting only" contact form that tells large swaths of potential users to go F*** themselves, and equally relies on scripting for validation which hasn't been JS' flipping job in over a decade!

You've got this wreck of non-semantic markup that wasn't even right/proper 20 years ago:

			<div id="sendEMail">
				<div id="eMailAddress">
					<label>Your E-mail address</label> <img /><br/>
					<input type="text" name="address" />
				</div>
				<div id="subject">
					<label>Subject</label> <img /><br/>
					<input type="text" name="subject" placeholder=" Mandatory" style="width: 300px;" />
				</div>
				<div id="body">
					<label>Body</label> <img /><br/>
					<textarea name="body" placeholder=" Mandatory" style="width: 300px; height: 100px;"></textarea>
				</div>
				<div id="send">
					<button><img /><span></span></button>
					<span id="info"></span>
					<img />
					<span id="error"></span>
				</div>
			</div>

Code (markup):

You've got ZERO association between label and input (either create for/id, or use LABEL as your wrapper), no scripting off plan, invalid/improper use of placeholder, JavaScript and excess scripting only elements doing the job of the "required" attribute and CSS, presentational img in the markup, scripting only elements in the markup...

Doing the job of:

	<form action="/contact" method="post" id="contact" class="ajaxEnhance">
		<h2>Contact Us</h2>
		<fieldset>
			<label>
				Your e-mail address<br>
				<input name="email" required type="email"><br>
			</label><label>
				Subject<br>
				<input name="subject" required><br>
			</label><label>
				Message<br>
				<textarea name="message" required><br>
			</label>
		</fieldset>
		<footer>
			<button>Send</button>
			<!-- place any hidden input/tokens here -->
		</footer>
	</form>

Code (markup):

Even the main menu / page header being generated -- again scripttard only telling large swaths of users to go plow themselves -- is incompetent trash. Your garbage JS for nothing is vomiting up this:

<div style="">
	<img src="images/logo-small.png" style="width: 95px; float: left;"> 
	<select id="arto8-ne">
		 <option value="gw" class="arto8-t">English</option>
		 <option value="ow" class="arto8-t">???????</option>
	</select>
	<div style="float: left; margin-left: -106px;margin-top: -14px;"><a href="http://bible.pharmproekt.am/" target="_blank"><img src="https://arto8.pharmproekt.am/images/bible32.png" title="Online Bible" class="arto8-t"></a></div>
	<div id="arto8-fw" class="arto8-aw">
		 <ul>
				<li id="Testing">
					 <div><img src="/images/testing24.png"><a href="index.html"><span class="arto8-t">Testing</span></a></div>
				</li>
				<li id="Results">
					 <div><img src="/images/results24.png"><a href="results.html"><span class="arto8-t">Results</span></a></div>
				</li>
				<li id="Tests">
					 <div><img src="/images/test24.png"><a href="tests.html"><span class="arto8-t">Tests</span></a></div>
				</li>
				<li id="About Us" class="arto8-w">
					 <div><img src="/images/aboutUs24.png"><span class="arto8-t">About Us</span></div>
				</li>
				<li id="Announcements">
					 <div><img src="/images/announcements24.png"><a href="announcement.html"><span class="arto8-t">Announcements</span></a></div>
				</li>
				<li id="Log In">
					 <div><img src="/images/enter24.png"><a href="login.html"><span class="arto8-t">Log In</span></a></div>
				</li>
		 </ul>
	</div>
	<div id="template-kt" style="position: relative;">
	<div style="background-color: whitesmoke; opacity: 0.87; position: absolute; width: 100%; top: 0px; bottom: 0px; z-index: -1;"></div>

Code (markup):

For what any sane developer would have static in the markup as:

<header>
	<h1><a href="/results">Test Service</a></h1>
	<a href="#mainMenu" class="menuOpen" hidden></a>
	<nav id="mainMenu" class="modal">
		<a href="#" hidden></a>
		<div data-heading="Main Menu">
			<a href="#" hidden></a>
			<ul>
				<li><a href="/results">Results</a></li>
				<li><a href="/tests">Tests</a></li>
				<li><a href="/about">About Us</a></li>
				<li><a href="/announcements">Announcements</a></li>
				<li><a href="#login">Log In</a></li>
			</ul>
		</div>
	</nav>
</header>

Code (markup):

And that includes the hooks for a "hamburger icon" driven mobile friendly menu without a lick of JavaScript involved. But I'm so sure throwing ten times the code needed to do the job at it in the form of client-side "JS for nothing" was so worth not using a server-side language. NOT!.

And yes, that does provide enough hooks to apply those icons as well. The CSS attribute selector is our latest and greatest friend! Which a modern developer would be using SVG encoded into the CSS or a webfont for, not crapping them in as PNG in the markup since as presentation, they have zero business in the HTML -- or even the JS -- in the first place.

Again, you don't know enough HTML to be trying to do any sort of client-side JavaScript, much less making some sort of 'framework". I mean lands sake, we never actually needed to say type="text/JavaScript" on <script> tags and they (the W3C) said we can stop doing that a little over 12 years ago... You are diving for JavaScript for things that are none of scripting's business, in a manner that violates accessibility norms, makes the pages harder for users to actually use, and reeks of jumping the gun right past learning to use HTML and CSS properly.

 

I was blocked by a moderator because I had put several links on existing sites prepared with my framework. Since the moderator deletes the topic that has a link and then blocks me for several months, I don't see in here forum a place to discuss my framework here.

Any one can write lies because there is no way for others to look at the sites and check.

 

No <table> in <p> construction on my sites. In the next message I will post 4 links to my sites already a third time for you to look at. If you can't find the links, then the moderator has deleted it again. Hopefully a few people will get to see it before he can delete it.

 

https://storageservice.pharmproekt.am/

https://pharmproekt.am/?language=en

http://testservice.pharmproekt.am/aboutUs.html?language=en

http://bible.pharmproekt.am/

login: admin,
password: admin

 

How can I hide my sin, I searched all the pages of 4 websites, there was something similar on 2 pages. They will be fixed in the next update.

 

Javascript codes is minified, but try to understand what is being done on these sites. Look at the size of the downloadable code, evaluate the complexity of the implemented functionality. This framework is still under development. I won't open many brackets, but the architecture of the code allow it easy to make even larger, complex projects without to drop code maintenance/support. All the beauty is in open source codes and developing codes with it.

 

Your markup seems to still be the same gibberish reeking of not knowing enough HTML to be building a framework.

I mean your very first link:

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

Code (markup):

Do you know what transitional means? It means "in transition from 1997 to 1998 practices". No new website made after 1998 should have a transitional doctype.

	<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://arto8.pharmproekt.am/noscript.css">

Code (markup):

Where's your media target?

	<style type="text/css">
		#contactsInfo img {
			vertical-align: middle;
		}
		.arto8-zw > #arto8-vw {
			text-indent: initial;
		}
	</style>

Code (markup):

Static style in the markup? Just say no.

	<div style="display: none;">
		<h1>JavaScript disabled</h1>
		<p>
			ՊԱՀԵՍՏ ԾԱՌԱՅՈՒԹՅՈՒՆ! Առցանց պահեստի տվյալների բազա հարմար ու հզոր, Ձեզ հետ ամենուր</p>
		<img src="http://storageService.pharmproekt.am/images/storage.jpg" />
	</div>
    <noscript>
	    <div>
		    <h1>JavaScript disabled</h1>
		    <p>
			    It appears that your web browser does not support JavaScript,
			    or you have temporarily disabled scripting. Either way, this site
			    won't work without it.</p>
		</div>
	</noscript>

Code (markup):

What makes "JavaScript Disabled" THE (singular) heading (singular)that EVERYTHING on the page is a subsection of?

Especially when you don't even have an ACTUAL page heading?

	<div id="arto8-w" style="display: none;">
		<div style="text-indent: 20px; text-align: justify; padding: 8px;">
			<div id="uw" style="display: none;">

Code (markup):

Multiple DIV for nothing, static style in the markup, pixel metrics telling many users -- like myself -- to go plow a log...

<span><a><img src="/images/products24.png"> Ապրանքներ</a></span>

Code (markup):

Span for nothing, anchor for nothing, presentational image in the markup, no alt text (assuming the image even belongs there, it doesn't!)...

						<p>
							<a href="./products.html" target="_blank"><img src="/images/products24.png"> Ապրանքներ</a>
							էջում խմբագրվում, պահպանվում, նաև տեղեկություն է տրվում ապրանքատեսակների տվյալները.
								<ul>
									<li>Անվանումը, (խմբագրվող) - ապրանքի անվանումը</li>
									<li>Քանակ, - ապրանքի մնացորդը պահեստում</li>
									<li>Մուտքի Միջին Գին, - ապրանքի հաշվարկված միջին գինն է մուտքի օրդերների պատմության վրա հիմնված <a href="#inputPriceCalculation">(հաշվարկի ալգորիթմը ներքևում է)</a></li>
									<li>Մուտքի Մաքսիմում Գին, - ապրանքի հաշվարկված մաքսիմում գինն է մուտքի օրդերների պատմության վրա հիմնված <a href="#inputPriceCalculation">(հաշվարկի ալգորիթմը ներքևում է)</a></li>
									<li>Ելքի Ֆիքսած Գին, (խմբագրվող) - ապրանքի ֆիքսած գինն է պահեստից ելք անելու համար</li>
									<li>Ելքի Տոկոս, (խմբագրվող) - այս տոկոսը ավելանում է մուտքի հաշվարկված գների վրա ձևավորելու ելքի համապատասխան գները:
										Եթե դատարկ է թողվում, օգտագործվում է Պրոֆիլում առկա գլոբալ տոկոսը</li>
									<li>Ելքի Միջին Գին, - ապրանքի պահեստից ելքի համար առաջարկվող գների տարբերակներից մեկը հիմնված Մուտքի Միջին Գնի վրա</li>
									<li>Ելքի Մաքսիմում Գին, - ապրանքի պահեստից ելքի համար առաջարկվող գների տարբերակներից մեկը հիմնված Մուտքի Մաքսիմում Գնի վրա</li>
									<li>Շտրիխ Կոդ, (խմբագրվող) - այն ապրանքը, որ ունի շտրիխ կոդ, այստեղ լրացվում է այդ կոդը, որ զամբյուղի մեջ ապրանքները հավագեք շտրիխ կոդ
										կարդացող սարքով:</li>
									<li>Զգուշացման Քանակ, (խմբագրվող) - այս քանակը ցույց է տալիս այն սահմանը, որից մնացորդը նվազելուց պետք է ուշադրություն դարձվի տվյալ
										ապրանքը համալրելու համար։ Օրինակ․ ասենք կոնկրետ ապրանքի համար Զգուշացման Քանակ նշվել է 100։ Երբ ապրանքի մնացորդը պահեստում 70 է,
										<a href="/reports/products.html" target="_blank"><img src="/images/products24.png">Հաշվետվություններ / Ապրանքներ</a> հաշվետվությունում
										Զգուշացման Քանակ սյունակը հաշվառվում է՝ (70 - 100) / 100 = -0.3: Երբ այդ սյունակով սորտավորենք աճման կարգով
										առաջին տողերում բացասական արժեքներովը կլինեն այն ապրանքները, որոնց պետք է ուշադրություն դարձնել պահեստ համալրելու համար, վերջանում են։</li>
								</ul>
						</p>

Code (markup):

A UL is not -- nor is it part of -- a grammatical paragraph. Same thing you did ages past the last time around with a table that you're crying "wah wah, is not" about.

Which of course you still actually did, so your claims you don't have a table in a paragraph and accusing me of "lying" is even MORE BS.

<p>
					Վճարումը կատարելու եք առցանց, հետևյալ բանկային հաշվեհամարին.
					<table>
						<tr>
							<th style="text-align: right;">Հաշվեհամար</th>
							<th>11814019123003</th>
						</tr>
						<tr>
							<th style="text-align: right;">Ստացող</th>
							<th>ARTAVAZD ANANIKYAN</th>
						</tr>
					</table>
				</p>

Code (markup):

Don't even know what's in your own code huh? Also where's your SCOPE and why are you shitting presentation into the markup with style=""? That's the stylesheet's job!

Kind of like this rubbish:

<div id="cashbackCalculator">
						<label>Օգտագործված ծառայության ընդհանուր գումարը.</label>
						<input type="text" style="text-align: right; width: 80px;" /> դրամ
						<img />
						<button>Հաշվել</button>
						<div style="display: none;">
							<label>Հաշվարկված ընդհանուր CashBack գումարը.</label>
							<span></span> դրամ
						</div>
				</div>

Code (markup):

DIV for fieldset, what seems to be scripting only content crapped into the markup (should be built on the DOM from your scripts), SPAN for nothing, DIV for nothing, zero association between your label and any related INPUT (aka the for/id or wrapping relationship) meaning these aren't form LABEL, and just exactly what FORM are those BUTTON tags submitting to? (since the default on a button is type="submit", not "button")

Or this:

<hr/> <p>
					Այս ծառայությունը կարելի է օգտագործել զանազան բնագավառներում, ոլորտներում, որտեղ կա մուտք (ծախսեր) և ելք (արտադրանք): Երկու օրինակ բերեմ:
					Գյուղատնտեսությամբ զբաղվողի համար կարող է մուտքի օրդերի օրինակ լինի՝
						<table>
							<thead>
								<tr>
									<th>Ապրանք</th>
									<th>Քանակ</th>
									<th>Գին</th>
								</tr>
							</thead>
							<tbody>
								<tr>
									<td>Քիմ պարարտանյութ N1 (կգ)</td>
									<td>16</td>
									<td>1000</td>
								</tr>
								<tr>
									<td>Դիզել վառելիք (լիտր)</td>
									<td>30</td>
									<td>480</td>
								</tr>
							</tbody>
						</table>
					Ելքի օրդերի օրինակ.
						<table>
							<thead>
								<tr>
									<th>Ապրանք</th>
									<th>Քանակ</th>
									<th>Գին</th>
								</tr>
							</thead>
							<tbody>
								<tr>
									<td>Վարունգ ռուսական (կգ)</td>
									<td>80</td>
									<td>200</td>
								</tr>
								<tr>
									<td>Լոլիկ (կգ)</td>
									<td>50</td>
									<td>350</td>
								</tr>
							</tbody>
						</table>
				</p> <hr/>

Code (markup):

But sure, I was lying about you putting table inside paragraphs.

Here's a tip:

https://validator.w3.org/check?uri=...(detect+automatically)&doctype=Inline&group=0

Che-chekity check yo'-self, before yah wreck yo'-self...
Che-chekity check yo'-self, before yah wreck yo'-self...
Che-chekity check yo'-self, before yah wreck yo'-self...
Big errors in your markup is bad for yo' health.

And again it just shows how the people who think they need to make frameworks don't know enough HTML or CSS to be building such tools yet.

Just like your "size of the downloaded code" claim, laughable on that first site you linked to where you're blowing 241k in 42 separate files just for your HTML, CSS, and JS on a page that only has 9.92k of plaintext, zero content media, no real layout worthy of mention, and two minor sections that actually warrant the presence of JavaScript.

Aka probably not even 20k of HTML, 10k of CSS, and 10k of JavaScript's flipping job. At MOST you'd need 32k for the CSS of the entire site and that's without slopping style="" all over the blasted place.

Basically you're using as much as six times the code needed to do the job!

Before you go dicking around making "yet another" pointless "framework", take the time to learn modern HTML and CSS, instead of cramming your cranium up 1997's rectum.

 

You stubbornly do not want to see the important thing, you cling to the little things. I will answer your writings point by point. Of course, if I tell you to make a grid with your well-known frameworks, you will not make it. Grid features all together: scrolling, sorting, filtering with multiple options, context menu, columns context menu, toolbar, columns moving, columns resizing with multiple options, columns show/hide, grid splitting, editable/read-only, grid paging, editing cells by validation, computed columns, grid downloading by excell file, aggregate evaluating footer row. Show that there is nothing complicated in making such a grid. Now I will turn to your points

 

1.
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">

This is for backwards compatibility and does not prevent the site from working

2.
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="https://arto8.pharmproekt.am/noscript.css">
Code (markup):
Where's your media target?

I don't know what you mean

3. <p> ... <table> ... </table> ... <ul> ... </ul> </p> already say find so constructions in 2 pages, and already corrected, still not updated. The browser smooths out such cases smoothly and does not give any errors and does not disrupt the site's work

4. Just like your "size of the downloaded code" claim, laughable on that first site you linked to where you're blowing 241k in 42 separate files ...

Mine is a modular build. I don't put everything in one file. Each widget is in a separate file. context menu one, toolbar another, pager another. If I need a grid without a context menu, toolbar or pagination they will not be loaded into memory. The template is also a separate file. In short, I see a lot of advantages with separate modules, my website works smoothly, not slowly, and the users are not dissatisfied.

 

There are some missed points, I don't want to go over them, if you suddenly make a similar grid, I will be very interested, please post a link so I can take a look.

 

Thanks to the moderator for not deleting the links this time, or yet. Hope it won't delete. As it is constantly being developed and updated, you can visit it regularly.

 

I know the IT community has open source expectations. What is valuable is in open source, which I do not represent. But a thinking programmer can estimate the value of this framework by the complexity of the tasks that this framework was able to overcome. At least those things are openly placed on the Internet and you can test all the functionality as a black box, there is nothing hidden there. I wrote in a previous post that you should try writing a complete grid like this with any framework with all the features I listed above. Show that there is nothing complicated there. When you are able to make such a grid, I will do a comparative analysis. Instead of nonsensical and unconstructive criticisms, I expect a link to an example of a prepared grid

 

I think we're butting heads on language barrier, because I have genuinely zero clue what you're even talking about at this point. WHAT "problems" were overcome? When you say "grid" are you talking about layout or display:grid, or something else entirely? Because when you say "make such a grid" I'm sitting here going "what huffing grid?!?"

I have no clue what "prepared grid" you have in any of your examples, much less what the devil grids have to do with ANY of this, or what you would expect me to even code given what you've shown. I don't even see anything that would be called a grid in any of the sites or pages you have shown. Every single one of them seems to be broken inaccessible single column layouts. SINGLE COLUMN -- what does that have to do with any sort of "grid"?!?

Also clueless why you're dragging "open source" into this as if it has anything to do with the discussion.

 

It is clear to me, You haven't thought of going to other pages.

https://pharmproekt.am/?language=en

redirect to login page, in authorization Name: admin, Password: admin. click Sign In backwards to page, where has grid.