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Jagger Update - Lets figure this out

Discussion in 'Google' started by Discreet, Oct 24, 2005.

  1. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #81
    Update:

    Postion #30 allinanchor: #803 -10/26/2005

    Position
    2 DCs #13 (66.102.9.* Datacenters)
    10 DCs #28
    4 DCs #29
    12 DCs #30
    5 DCs #31

    Allinanchor
    #802 on 2 DCs,
    #803 on 11 DCs,
    #804 on 10 DCs,
    #806 on 10 DCs


    Caryl

    PS - this is where the site was at just as this October Google Event was starting...
    Postion #12 allinanchor: #3 --10/15/2005

    Position
    27 DCs #12,
    6 DCs #487
    SEMrush
    Allinanchor
    #3 on 27 DCs
    #799 on 6 DCs
     
    mcdar, Oct 26, 2005 IP
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  2. Old Welsh Guy

    Old Welsh Guy Notable Member

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    #82
    Red repped for this post because "not every commercial site does well in froogle" redrepped by A n Onomous :D gotta love people who have courage of their convictions :D

    I agree that not all commercial sites do well in Froogle, but then again, not all commercial stores do well in the offline world of commerce. When will people realise that having a website is no different to having a shop on the high street?

    To succeed in commercial environments you have to deliver a product that people want to buy at a price they are willing to pay, and deliver it in the fashion they are prepared to accept!

    Sorry if I offended anoyone, but there is no difference to the basics of online V offline business. Commerce is Commerce!

    QUOTE=Old Welsh Guy]Maybe they (Google) are planning for the future rather than sitting around looking at the past. Google is making massive profits, and taking more and more marketshare by the day. They created a free service for people who sell goods, called Froogle, a free News facility, it is right then that product pages fro ecomm sites should not appear in the regular SERP's . Much as I hate it, go create a froogle feed!

    Google are going to move into classifieds, including motors and property resale. What is wrong with that ? They are a business, it is what they do. Microsoft did it, Walmart did it. Why hate Google for doing it?

    Like it or not Google are delivering the bulk of search traffic to the average site. more than Yahoo! but with roughly the same market share, so what does that tell you? G! have said they are rolling out 3 indexes, so this tells me they are complex issues, how can you expect everything to be fine and dandy while they are doing this?[/QUOTE]
     
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  3. Cygnus

    Cygnus Cat Herder

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    #83
    You got redrepped for that? I figured that kind of thing was reserved more for naughty behaviour...poor form.

    To a degree I agree with you that commerce is commerce and that Google should not rest on their laurels. Where I disagree with the current strategy is the speed in which Google is rolling out new services, in my opinion neglecting what made them great. Should they be in news, froogle, adwords, etc? Sure, why not...it's a business. However, by focusing on some of these other areas, I think they have lost their technical edge on SE relevance (as referenced by the greater percentage of cache issues, 302 problems, indexing of incorrect domains, etc). IMHO, they need to fix their current problems in order to maintain dominance, before attempting to extend their empire.

    Cygnus
     
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  4. michael_angeloh

    michael_angeloh Peon

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    #84
     
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  5. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #85
    Michael,

    Please PM me the keywords you are searching as well as the particular tool you are using.

    Thanks,
    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Oct 26, 2005 IP
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  6. mitchandre

    mitchandre Peon

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    #86
    You might want to post queries onto his own forum ;)
     
    mitchandre, Oct 26, 2005 IP
  7. michael_angeloh

    michael_angeloh Peon

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    #87
    Thanks Caryl,

    PM'd. you get..?
     
    michael_angeloh, Oct 26, 2005 IP
  8. mcdar

    mcdar Peon

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    #88
    Michael,

    You need to search for your site using 1800sunstar.com NOT 1800SUNSTAR.COM/

    The search is case sensitive.

    The first occurance of 1800SUNSTAR.COM/ (all upper case) is a listing from "web stats from Statbrain.com" at position #34

    Caryl
     
    mcdar, Oct 26, 2005 IP
  9. michael_angeloh

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    #89
    Caryl,

    Yep... that made the difference...

    Thanks again...
     
    michael_angeloh, Oct 26, 2005 IP
  10. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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  11. sGroup

    sGroup Peon

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    #91
    different data at 6.102.9.104
     
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  12. NetMidWest

    NetMidWest Peon

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    #92
    I assume you mean 66.102.9.104 - they do seem to differ.
    For the keywords I am targeting, they do seem to be more relevant... but there are some that still do not deserve to be there, not even a mention of one of the keywords...
    I hope that these are the ones that get don't get discarded...
    66.102.9.104
    216.239.59.104
    66.102.11.104

    But I see 3 sets of serps now,

    64.233.183.99, 216.239.59.99
    64.233.179.104, 64.233.185.99
    66.102.9.104, 216.239.59.104

    Similar to this past February...

    Edit: didn't see this... http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=36201
     
    NetMidWest, Oct 31, 2005 IP
  13. seo copywriter

    seo copywriter Guest

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    #93
    What to do if you get an undeserved penalty? (WE, a dutch SEO company > www.optimalisatie-website.com) have been penalized and we don’t know why. We didn’t use hidden techniques or spam. All our content is VISIBLE!!! We used to have pagerank 4, now we have 0. We think one of our competitors filled in a spam report and that Google just banned our site, without checking the report properly.

    Does anyone have good tips what to do in this case? Wich department of Google is best to contact? We already sent an e-mail and we had phone contact with Amsterdam and America, but no one answers our questions! (Why did you penalize us?)

    Greetz Wouter
     
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  14. Gede

    Gede Peon

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    #94
    Ok daar gaan we wouter...

    I just saved your index page locally.

    its 11.640 bytes.

    I removed "zoekmachine" and "optimalisatie" from the source.

    then the files becomes only 9.033 bytes.

    2607 bytes gone = 22.39 % of the webpage are just these 2 words.

    And you use absolute urls, why?

    And a quick glance at the other pages on your site, suggest the same keyword stuffing.

    Is your site spammy? YES
     
    Gede, Nov 12, 2005 IP
  15. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    #95
    And as always, this is caused by a competitor... a friend... an angry ex-girlfriend... a hungry cat... a guy with no legs...

    Why can't people accept the fact that some sites are better than theirs and for consecuense have better rankings?
     
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  16. vulcano

    vulcano Active Member

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    #96
    lol Fryman you are outstanding, too much humour that early my morning, my dog and my girlfriend are already asleep:D
     
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  17. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #97
    Now that Jagger is over...

    We still don't know shit.
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 14, 2005 IP
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    #98
    How would we know if we did know shit.
     
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  19. mnemtsas

    mnemtsas Super Dud

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    #99
    Never has a truer thing been said.
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #100
    If I knew shit, my site that was clobbered by Jagger1 would be back to 9K visitors per day, instead of where it is now at 3k visitors per day.

    If I knew shit, I would know why one of my sites was clobbered by Jagger1, while none of my other sites were touched.

    If I knew shit, at least one of the numerous changes I have made since Jagger1 would have had some effect.

    If I knew shit, I would be in one hell of a better mood.
     
    Will.Spencer, Dec 14, 2005 IP