Jagger - The third wave

That's what is making G a whole load of crap now

People need to go and get expired domains to get listed !!!

This latest round of "dancing" is just the same

A whole bunch of juvenile google techies who have no experience in the "real world", who think they can out think the whole world by putting in place some sort of filter that will "catch" spammy sites

So far it has caught me and I have a fair idea what it is ..... one of my sites is so, so genuine and different, that it is hard to understand that with unique, absolutely unique, Keywords that it cannot even rate, fullstop, for those KWs - nobody else in the whole world can unless they copy and use the exact terms...time will tell, but it just means, if I am right, a whole page shuffle !!!

Good grief when will the G juveniles grow up and stop trying to masquerade under some "new technology"

 

You're right Foxy...
doesnt make any sense does it. Thats why I think this has nothing to do with filters, backlinks, content etc... I look at SERPs for various keywords I follow and the relevency isnt there. I go along with some others here who have posted that this is a case of missing data. As soon as Google does whatever it does to re-insert this data, there should be a re-indexing which may be much more pleasing to all concerned...

 

Does anyone think that perhaps on shared servers mught be penalized more than ones on their own servers?

 

That is indeed true. But the reverse seems to be the case here where people get accustomed to the Google traffic and then find it can dry up very quickly. The old lesson is still valid, I guess. Diversify. And not just among search engines. There are various other good ways of attracting traffic.

 

No. And it's not likely to happen. Not in any general way, anyway.

 

It's long been discussed.

Some say that google accords less weight to websites from the same IP, or same Class C IP.

I do not believe this.

And as for google paying attention to websites with dedicated IP's ... This is like never going to happen . INMHO.

 

I agree with Minstrel that it's not going to happen and for a specific reason:
Big hosts run 10's or 100's of thousands of sites on a single shared server. In this instance, a shared server isn't a single specific machine but rather a specific cluster. This is very common practice, and it's a practice that's used by both big providers and large enterprises. It's a very sensible way of scaling webservers and so would never be penalised in the way you're thinking.

 

Never happen. Every yahoo store is on the same IP address. 1 in 8 ecomm sites are on yahoo (according to them), so you would have to penalize thousands of websites for no good reason at all.

 

You make some good points.

The things that are going on in Google are unacceptable in today's world. Does MSN need a month to perform updates? Google is just raping people with Adwords, juggling them around so everyone signs up at one point or another. It's really sick.

And if you're someone who thinks I'm just making conspiracy theories, you really got to take a step back. Google has an amazing corporate image.. they can get away with many, many things. If Microsoft acted the same way as Google, you'd have lawsuits flying around like rain falling out of the sky because Microsoft image is toted as 'the dark side'.

BTW, did you hear? Google stock up 7% after Jagger.

Hexed

 

I'm sure you're right. Google is just doing this to get you...

Why yes... yes, I do think that...

Um... hello? Earth to hexed? Microsoft DOES have lawsuits flying around like rain... haven't you bee paying attention?

 

You don't have to be so offensive in your posts when you disagree with someone.

Anyhow, I won't try to argue with you because you know you are obviously correct.

Hexed

PS - The Senators stink

 

His point is that Google don't have even 1% of the lawsuits that Microsoft would have in a similar situation.
Google does have a pretty clean corporate image, whether it uses that for it's own advantage I don't know. To be honest I'd be suprised if they didn't.
Whether they are in this case may or may not ever be known.