Jagger - The third wave

Tomorrow will mark the 1 month anniversary of the update for me. 1 month of hell and I am expecting 1 more month as well.

Happy Xmas Google

 

Brett over at WMW names the updates. He explains why he chose the name in a post there. I believe it's a reference from an interview with Matt Cutts http://www.seobook.com/archives/cat_interviews.shtml

 

Can anyone tell me why when I do find my site in the SERPs today (on page 7-10, down from #1 before the update), I only see a subpage that has very few links pointing to it.. My homepages for this site is nowhere in the SERPs. I can only find it by, site:www.domain.com???

 

A couple of possible reasons. Your site is sandboxed or you have been penalized for having back link partners.

 

Why would it be sandboxed. It was created 7 years ago. Penalized for having link partners? They are all related to my theme. Those can't be my only two possibilities. There are WAY too many examples of sites that have way more link partners in a directory style that are fine. Anything else?

 

i got my PR reduced from 5 to 4. Give me some tips to go up. I am really sad.

 

Get more links. Quality links. Every update, Google changes their link requirement for each level of PR. Just get more links.

Back to my issue...

 

Matt says that this is a multi-part update that is being rolled out ... like the last update in that it dragged on and on forever.

If my memory serves me correctly I had a site come out of the sandbox in the latter part of the last update, maybe the same pattern will follow with Jagger?

Have you had any sites released from the sandbox?

 

Good one, Weirfire! Thanks for speaking for the majority of us "lurkers" looking to learn and grow. I appreciate this forum so much. And there is a lot civility that is often absent in other forums.

 

Can someone tell me who is Matt Cutts? Who is this guy?

What credentials does he have that makes his theories reliable and worth listening to?

 

Matt is one of the only people from Google who communicates with the public about SEO.
I never got a good answer to my question. Does anyone have any more ideas. Thanks a lot.:

Can anyone tell me why when I do find my site in the SERPs today (on page 7-10, down from #1 before the update), I only see a subpage that has very few links pointing to it.. My homepages for this site is nowhere in the SERPs. I can only find it by, site:www.domain.com???

 

Why should anyone think that past updates have anything to do with this one. Seems to me that every update is unique and can produce strange results no matter what.

I pray to the gods of information (maybe Google, maybe not), that they fix what they broke for my site so that I can go on supporting my family.

Shame on me for counting on Google to give me traffic and earn money from my site(s) but at this point, it is what it is. Bring me back my traffic!!!

 

He works for Google other than that what credentials would he need.
If you search for "Matt Cutts" you can find out plenty of information for yourself.
How many links you would like me to post for you - out of the 295,000 Google returns WHICH YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO FIND FOR YOURSELF.

One thing that annoys me about forums is people asking questions which can be answered very quickly be using a search engine.

 

How about 'cos we're in the middle of a multi-stage update.
If you read the various update threads on this forum you might just get the hint that no one really has a clue what is going on at the moment.

 

jlawrence I take it your not doing so well with the updates so far. You seem rather irritated!

 

Part of the reason is that Google may want to see the response from the SEO and webmaster world. During this time they probably look at a lot of feedback from email and in forums like these, especially comments about specific sites that are showing up in the top SERP's that probably shouldn't be there.

As much as some people at Google may despise the SEO community, they still need the SEO community to police their results and make that their algo provides the expected results across most or all of the product and information sectors.

 

the only thing that is going to happen in the later stages of the update is that any rankings you still have for your less competitive terms will gone too.

party on

 

I have some hopes too

 

I am not sure why Google would care about what people on the forums think. I am assuming that they have a series of tests that they can run through for key phrases and then they can decide from this whether their alogorithm does the job.

It obviously does not and a big part of their business is predicated on having a good search engine so that they get results from adWords and their sponsored results. So it would behoove them to make the results as spam-free and relevant as possible and they have obviously not done that so phase II and III might just be slight adjustments to try and fix what they did in Update I.

Of course, this is all hypotheses but I would think that they would listen to Joe Searcher before they listen to Joe SEO. In fact, I think they'd sooner listen to Jae-Weong SEO, the New York Mets Korean pitcher.

 

It's not just the fact that some sites have tanked - I've also some that have risen
It's more the fact that it simply doesn't make sense. The sooner it's over the better.
I'm peeved at the fact that MattC says google no longer do big updates, he might be right. Now they take a big update split it in 3 and completely f*** you for a month or more, rather than in one swift hit where after a week or two you can work out wtf happened.
At the moment I'm watching sites tank for some keywords, rise for others, have completely irrelevant pages returned for SERPs. I don't mind irrelevant sites in the SERPs, I do mind it when it is my site that is returning the irrelevant pages. I've seen people arrive at my site using keywords that afaik don't exist on the site never mind the page that they were sent to.
This update makes no sense what so ever and that f'in irritates me.
When I'm in this sort of mood, I have little time for people who can't be bothered to find things out for themselves.

Time for another caffine shot and a smoke then I'll feel much happier