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Jagger - The third wave

Discussion in 'Google' started by yfs1, Oct 20, 2005.

  1. OhDannyBoy

    OhDannyBoy Peon

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    #21
    Matts post only suggests it "would not be suprised" - Other source backs this up.

    Close to who / what. .......what do you think.
     
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    #22
    I'm not getting my hopes up too high.

    I know that with each subsequent update, my site has been getting worse rankings and so I wouldn't be surprised now if Google goes to my site and just takes away any other traffic that I have from other sources.

    Not sure how they would do this but Google is the God of Information.
     
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  3. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #23
    Are they? I keep thinking that google's system of checking for spam, relevance has gotten so complex that they aren't even quite sure how it works sometimes. Each time they tinker with something, it fouls up something else. You gotta wonder with all these "updates" if the system isn't bandaged so much now that a google rewrite may be needed to truly make things stable.
     
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  4. Ian

    Ian Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Agreed. Hopefully we see some changes, as this one so far hasn't been positive.

    Ian
     
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  5. yfs1

    yfs1 User Title Not Found

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    #25
    I hate cryptic stuff...We have Matt Cutts thoughts on it, I'm not sure what having an "other source" adds to it, expecially when that other source could be a leprachaun for all we know.

    Does your source have information that isn't public knowledge? That we might be interested in ;)
     
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  6. explorer

    explorer Well-Known Member

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    #26
    3 part update Matt? - I don't think so. Just one update gone wrong. Here's the running order.

    Update "1": Screwed up
    Update "2": Reverse update 1 - get back to starting point.
    Update "3": A second go and getting the original update right.

    (No inside sources, just idle speculation. ;) )
     
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  7. Starbug

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    #27
    @ explorer..

    That would be nice if it were indeed the case.. I especially like the sound of "Update 2" :cool:
     
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  8. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #28
    My question is: If a 2nd and 3rd update is required. Why is the 1st allowed to sit out there so long. If you know the results are bad and need to fixed; why is the tone: yeah, we'll do a second one sometime soon.
     
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  9. tork

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    #29
    Has anyone poped out of sandbox during all this?
     
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  10. sji2671

    sji2671 Self Made Mind

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    #30
    Google do not work in blocks and black/white, they have been addressing different sectors in this update so some people felt the changes long before others and there is/won't be "1" update and then a "2nd/3rd" It is not a case of implementing one change that they then delete and then use an old datacentre.

    Google are moving quickly toward fluidity whereby all previous updates will be unrecognisable in the future to a point where flux is "life" and avoid major algo integration at one set point.

    I think in the near future we will lose the names (jasper) and the updates. Google will try and evolve on a near daily basis as they now do with many aspects of their algorithm, Matt's blogs says as much from what I can see and the "big updates" are going to die out and just leave us in constant flux that may affect certain sectors/genre's as they play out different tweaks without the collective always being aware of the changes.

    Resistance is futile.
     
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  11. jlawrence

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    #31
    Perhaps that rewrite is what the new binary is all about that I read somewhere.
     
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  12. skattabrain

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    #32
    anyone else having trouble finding the information you are looking for since monday? besides obvious searches like looking up a name or product. i mean like looking up a windows technical issue, stuff you are researching ... not seo'ing ... i'm not convinced that this update improved the engines quality one bit.

    maybe they managed to hack a lot of spam out ... with a very wide, very unprecise swipe ... but i'm not sure the web is better for it.

    IMO
     
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  13. skattabrain

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    #33
    i guess it boils down to this ...

    when designing your business plan ... consider PPC a staple, and organic a bonus ... and use the bonus to build your biz ... not as a down payment on a new ferrari.
     
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  14. swoop

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    #34
    So where did the name "Jagger" come from for this update? :confused:
     
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    classifieds Sopchoppy Flash

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    #35
    From: http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/type/googleseo/
     
    classifieds, Oct 20, 2005 IP
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    #37
    Named after Mic right? Isn't he a Stones Fan? ;)
     
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  18. ferret77

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    #38
    that sitepoint article says nothing

    What exactly did he call?
     
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    #39
    Tonight will mark the 1 week anniversary for the update. I started last friday evening and hit hard on sunday. Gotta wonder if they have part 2 coming this weekend or waiting till next week.
     
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    Nov 2003 was Florida wasn't it? I think that was the over optimization on page penalty update. Someone caught onto that one very quickly. Might have been him.
     
    lorien1973, Oct 21, 2005 IP